Even assertive people who rebel against “the system”, by which I mean outside influences, and minimise their dependence upon others, are still in some measure constrained by the world. These people are usually the more successful ones, who possess a far greater degree of control over their lives and themselves.
Is free will real, or are our lives predetermined by factors beyond our control?
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by free will in my opinion, say
blink 5 times right now..
okay, you did that out of free will right? i told you to but i didnt force you to..
now do something completely out of free will..
that was what we actually call “free will”
if you want to go deeper, its more like everything that has ever happened in this universe has been determined and we are just acting it out
in that case, what we call free will is an illusion.. we are made believe that we choose to do something but we are really just playing something out..
blink 5 times right now..
okay, you did that out of free will right? i told you to but i didnt force you to..
now do something completely out of free will..
that was what we actually call “free will”
if you want to go deeper, its more like everything that has ever happened in this universe has been determined and we are just acting it out
in that case, what we call free will is an illusion.. we are made believe that we choose to do something but we are really just playing something out..
True. We “choose” to use social media for 6 hours a day. We “choose” to play candy crush instead of completing our homework or practicing for the big game tomorrow. We “choose” to waste our time.
but then i feel like if it were true then there would be a rule of existence.. “do not think of free will”
if free will isnt real then why do we think of free will?! is it just another illusion to make us believe again that it is real?!?! 😵💫😵💫
if free will isnt real then why do we think of free will?! is it just another illusion to make us believe again that it is real?!?! 😵💫😵💫
The ones who end up better, in spite of getting the same facilities as others do, the same amount of support and start with the same intellect, are the ones who do things right and actually make choices. These people aren’t completely free, but they don’t have their actions effectively controlled by others. At least not to the extent that most of us do.
tsukiyo7809 wrote:
but then i feel like if it were true then there would be a rule of existence.. “do not think of free will”
if free will isnt real then why do we think of free will?! is it just another illusion to make us believe again that it is real?!?! 😵💫😵💫
if free will isnt real then why do we think of free will?! is it just another illusion to make us believe again that it is real?!?! 😵💫😵💫
Existence doesn’t really have “rules”. Free will is a construct that people made, to give themselves some feeling of control. It’s why the strategy of dominance is less successful than the strategy of prestige.
how are you 9?.. 😵💫🙏
#27 finally the words i was thinking of but couldnt put into a paragraph 😅
tsukiyo7809 wrote:
how are you 9?.. 😵💫🙏
Yes, I am.
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#31
I don’t even know what to believe anymore. Both sides have pretty compelling arguments.
Muffin_Soul wrote:
I don’t even know what to believe anymore. Both sides have pretty compelling arguments.
Believing in nothing except which advances your agenda is what I do, usually.
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#33
We only think we make decisions, but in reality they're made by chains of events
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#34
Maybe our lives are determined by the interaction of our free wills including our own.
how can free wills interact?
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#36
iamveryverygoodatchess5 wrote:
how can free wills interact?
He means that the free wills of others often impact others’ circumstances, I think.
#28 he’s 9 and he’s read 1984
It's predetermined but it's not fully beyond our control. I think the predetermined things are parents, your physical features, and trials. But you have more than one way to respond to it.
Everyone has free will, but we can't change everything.