It's good that you're having fun with the latest HCQ-bashing "study". Instead of looking at the HCQ issue from a left-wing vs. right-wing, political perspective, I'm trying to look at the issue from the perspective of, if I got the COVID-19 virus tomorrow, what kind of treatment would I push for so that I increased my chance of survival?

Based on everything I've read so far regarding HCQ and other drugs such as remdesivir, I think I would still opt for HCQ, with the Zpack and zinc. I wouldn't try to take it if I only had minor symptoms. I would also get an EKG both before going on the meds, and during the protocol.

I don't care what others decide to do or what they think - I only care to do what I think is best for me. and, of course, my opinion might change as new data comes in.

  I don't think you should make such a bold statement like that. I think you should listen to your primary care physician. He'll take into account your medical history and your famaly's history. What if you have an allergic reaction to HCQ.?

Of course I'd listen to my PCP, but that's the plan I'd pitch, and he'd have to have good information to get me to change my mind. I wouldn't characterize my previous post as a "bold statement" - I view it as a logically thought out decision, devoid of politics. Just because some scientifically-challenged person recommends something, that doesn't necessarily make it a bad idea. You just have to ignore the ignorant comments and look at the data yourself.

Nice one mate 💪 

From what Erik told me a few days ago, he has no idea what goes on in the forums and doesn't come in here.

The mod in here has extremely limited tools, and can't really do much mate, plus hes still answerable for his actions, as are all mods.

😗  LOL

  Esch....post 589.....Your right....I'm sorry.

If you'll permit me, I'd like to elaborate on my comments. I'm not trying to convince you of a particular treatment protocol. I should only care about *my* situation - It's your responsibility to decide for *your* situation.

What I *am* trying to get across to you is that I think you're letting your political beliefs blind you to the best decision-making process. In the last few years, I've had several events occur that opened my eyes to how often we get horrible advice from our so-called medical experts. I quickly learned that you can't afford to accept *anything* from a doctor at face value. Research everything as much as you can, and question everything. Anything less, and you risk a poorer outcome.

   I just heard something about a hair salon opening in Georgia. The owner said, they will not be taking cash.....to reduced the number of touch points. In & of itself that sounds reasonable but at a time when most people either have little or no money....long lines at food banks, etc. You use a charge card when times are good, the stock market is at record highs, everyone is employed. WHY would you feel the need to have your hair done with a charge card.?  You'll look good when your dead.

  I guess that's where we differ....with no disrespect. I agree with your research. In my personal life, I've had Zpack several times for infections and swear by it....its fabulous. My thinking was everybody should have it....500mg, once a yr.....will flush you right out. My own doctors at the V.A said...."Ronnie, you can't do that because the bugs will develop immunity to it and come back even stronger.

Post 589

Correct 👍 (from a nurse and now patient point of view).

Go by facts as given by health authorities. They're the ones in the thick of it, and have the most accurate, updated info (well... theu do this side of the pond).

As an ex-nurse who has worked many many times on Infectious Disease Wards, I know how and what i have too do while on my second bout of covid.

Rumour mongering is vitrolic and dangerous to not only those who scare easily, but those in high risk groups or high risk areas who don't have the full 'official' facts.

Everyone's situation is different. I hardly ever take antibiotics, and, as far as I know, I'm not allergic to anything.

Same here, i however have a zero to low immune system

  Well that's a good thing.  As far as the zinc that you mentioned....try "Cold-Ezze" The're cough drops with a lot of zinc in them....sold at all pharmacies, & grocery stores. Pop them in your mouth the moment you fell a cold coming on.

  I didn't know you use to be a nurse.......God bless them all.

   When I went for my 1st back operation 20 yrs ago, they ask you a litany of questions.....allergies,....your mother's heart history,...etc. I have no known allergies and the anathesiologist was trying to figure out how much to give me because I'm a smoker. I said, "aren't you just gonna give me anesthesia"?  He said...."we can bring you down,..but we may not be able to bring you back".  We're gonna give you propaphol.  I said, isn't that what killed Michael Jackson?  When you don't have someone there to monitor....yes.

As long as I'm setting myself up to be a punching bag, I might as well mention the other part of my COVID-19 defense plan - namely, to continue my keto diet. People love to bash it because it's currently a fad, and, well, it just HAS to be dangerous, don't you know? Yet, everything I've read about it points to keto as being the best nutritional way to improve your immune system, eliminate all of the nasty comorbidities, and help prevent onset of the cytokine storms that everyone is so afraid of.

(P.S. for kohai - I don't know what your situation is or whether keto would be good or bad for you.)

because I'm a smoker.

Ronald...pleez stop. s/h s/w. im begging u (and im serious). 

  Thank you sweetie....I'm trying.  Because of the virus I'm smoking 2 cigs a day.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Thursday April 23 12:00pm eastern/atlantic (gmt-4)

there are now a TOTAL of 852,640 known C-19 cases in the USA/Territories.

at this time y-day there were 820,600 cases. this is an increase of 3.9% overnite. the total case load went up 32,000 in the last 24 hours. and 641 ppl died lastnite.

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so. the growth rate since April 1st is:

3.9% (today)

2.5% (April 22)

4.2%

12.8% (over the wkend)

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4.3%

5.6%

4.6% (April 15)

4.7%

5.4%

11.9%

9.1%

8.3%

7.2%

11% (April 8)

5.4%

11%

13%

14%

15%

19%

9.2% (April 1)

no. thats good !....try2keep going at this amt  . xoL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbohZrnie-4

Covid-19 antibody test takes 8 minutes. But does it work?