Is Satan invented?

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FRENCHBASHER

lo it was a "byzantine" question 1453, the moment Turks were invading constantinople, they discussed in Roma in about that today proverbial question :"Angel's sex" ?

Actually sex is a preoccupaton on EARTH given by GOD creator tocontinu mankind and give happiness in a rued world.

Declines with ageLaughing, disappears with starting "grand voyage" after death, for those who believe; so Satan is bi-, tri-, if u admit he is a fallen angel.

did i answer properly Pastis?

FRENCHBASHER
ANOK1 a écrit :

i never read satanic verses frenchbasher , the intolerance level of modern religions really winds me up ,

fundamentalism in those religions is used to oppress and intimidate so many wish they had all their temples turned into refuges for humans in need but , that aint gonna happen until we take on mecca the vatican and westminster ,

too many have died just cos the religious nuts from those places said it has to be done

me too, they say it is a undigest book no one would have heard about if * marketing counselor of Salman got the good idea to ask for a fatwa to advanced moderate intellectuals human rights friends from Teheran 1980's.Smile. Ayatollahs, people you'd like to ask difference btw burkini and bikiniLaughing .

*just theory complotists used, jauke.

You don't mention jerusalaim in the list of cities. Could be good to get a whole price Laughing for refugees, the three monotheist religions with the SAME GOD, they say that!, and slightly differences, not more than 50 nuances of pure intelligence you need 7 years of deep study and brainwashing starting at 4 years old to catch it, are there. Esplanade des Mosquees, yu know is in ? hmm ??? Mecca, Medina or Qu'om ????

                                                 no, Jerusalaim !!

Which means than a catholic or westminster bishop wanting to do religious turism paid by government and visit Jesus place, is protected by ...jewish from enthusiastic muslims claiming Jesus is their prophet friend too, zen paradox.  Fortunately it is monotheistic. I had a nightmere: and if not ? Consider wars for real, with ONE GOD in three religions,

and now, like in Induism, 350 millions of Gods ? what would be our rights : never eat cow, AND never eat pig, otherwise assassinated in both cases, throat cut AND burned! (just facts, nothing more); that, with GODS. What could be worse with ... Evil ????? no dessert at lunch ??

As we say "Satan conducts the dance" Satan mène le bal.

Laughing.

What i love is the term "modern" religions. If -5000 Abram time and +622 is modern, i'm 64 years old, still a child, good news. I think you wanna say "monotheistic".

only Roman catholic used Vatican II 1964 for aggiornamento , they did it and consider now it is better to slightly shut up and disappear slowly but surely. Silent desintegration in France now.

They speak since centuries about aggiornamento ("new release") for muslims, just enlightened by a few murders btw friends. Here today in France they try, it is not at all a jauke, to promote "Islam de France", creating and paying Imam compatible with atheism state system, like to plug a disk with a magnetic band K7, good jobs for our next generation. To buy votes, democratic atheistic power has no choice, and mathematically will let place to islamic state. Here. 20 years considering rate of birth + mig vs denatality inside;

considering Jewish, 60 mio. of people making media systematical approach like for defending 6 bio. of human, it is the "chosen " people. You're chosen or not. Easy. A courageous attempt in USA (they are in life danger from ... their owncoreligionairs) to reform Judaism.

Except a few right right right wing, no one really knows what they really believe in,  practice is today not far from zero, "convertis" are a confidential number close to zero. Not a sect, just sects plus native only plus courageous move in USA.  It is a good think for turists to have them to visit Palestinian, without them, I'm not sure religious turism would be a piece of cake in Palestinia. just saying.

Satan Rushdie book started a hurricane. When will that stop? before the end of the Planet ? or ...after??

Khomeyn sent K7 magnetics tapes everywhere in theworld, truth, today kamikazes, tomorrow teleguided cars with NO driver inside. Only angels have wing, only weapons are ...modernLaughing. progress without border, or bordrline ?


nb just facts, and history, nothing personal, me personnally I don't care, too old.

Be deleted on mod / op request.

ANOK1

jerusalem  i intentionally missed out , i find that there its just such a powder keg , cowardly of me i know but thats one messed up place

Pastuszek
FRENCHBASHER wrote:

lo it was a "byzantine" question 1453, the moment Turks were invading constantinople, they discussed in Roma in about that today proverbial question :"Angel's sex" ?

Actually sex is a preoccupaton on EARTH given by GOD creator tocontinu mankind and give happiness in a rued world.

Declines with age, disappears with starting "grand voyage" after death, for those who believe; so Satan is bi-, tri-, if u admit he is a fallen angel.

did i answer properly Pastis?

Yes. Thank youSmile

ANOK1

pork is banned as a food source by two religions poss more but defo 2

islam and judaism , ever thought why ?

here is my theory

both are desert religions , pork goes off very quickly

the priest caste of both religions said god says no when in reality it was their call to prevent mass food poisoning

Ghostliner
MEXIMARTINI wrote:

i don't know what MM means.  man, you have no idea how much I have googled since I started checking out these forums.  haha.   what you mean wrong thread though?  did I miss the meaning of this thread?

MM=Meximartini, I'll use Mex instead. The only reason I suggest this might be the wrong thread for you is that Paganism predates Christianity, so Biblical scripture isn't relevant.

You're still welcome to stick around and contribute, but there are clearly people in this room who know a lot more about Paganism than I do and I'm keen to learn. I won't welcome disruption.

Ghostliner
kaynight wrote:

Some in Scotland follow, follow, censored.

I'm genuinely pleased to see that normal service has resumed on these forums, so for the sake of unity I'll put my tribal loyalties aside and forget that you mentioned the Huns.

;-)

FRENCHBASHER

+1

Aye Aye, Sir, Yessir ! Right, SkipperOP! sometimes it derails of coke, I guess, involuntarily. It happened to Montaigne with "farcissures", and to me, only once. LaughingM&M's can be with tequila too.Laughing

Ghostliner
ablankslate wrote:

How does this discussion topic find itself on chess.com?

That's a good question actually. Take a look at this discussion:

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/is-god-real2

 

Now then, if this fella (who is also a Global Warming denialist btw):

can roll up and insist that the Christian God is real, why can't this fella:

counter that by insisting that Satan is a construct?

 

All the Pagan belief systems predate Judaism, which means that Paganism is part of the human story - so you can think of this as a history thread if you like.

Ghostliner
FRENCHBASHER wrote:

op ty 

Nikprit :very interesting post    ; 

concerning horned God honoured by prehistoric men and Grotte des Trois frères, Ariège south of Fance (5* country, may be you visisted it).

In that beloved country south of France Midi, beside Cathares castle (some hérétiques considered by papists as inspired by Satan, to be "Parfait" is like to be GOD, villains !), you should go and visit RENNES LE CHATEAU too, next time : the church is almost dedicated to Satan, many hints to discover inside, knowning the world , hundreds of books about this place and vicar abbé Grandière 1900, wisigoth's treasure never discovered close, etc ... and good weather , sun, etc ...

From 400 to 1900, very interesting to trav in, + ...wine too rosé 3*, + Blanquette Limoux sort of light champaign to face Satan. Inside the church Rennes le Chateau:

 

outside , Satan library ?

 

Quivering Queen-sacs!

Note to self: Visit Rennes Le Chateau immediately.

Ghostliner

Nik @23: is the Welsh dragon a direct reference then?

Nikprit
Ghostliner wrote:

Nik @23: is the Welsh dragon a direct reference then?

The Welsh Dragon – WelshY Ddraig Goch ("the red dragon") pronounced [ə ˈðraiɡ ˈɡoːχ] – appears on the national flag of Wales. The oldest recorded use of the dragon to symbolise Wales is in the Historia Brittonum, written around AD 829, but it is popularly supposed to have been the battle standard of King Arthur and other ancient Celtic leaders. Its association with these leaders along with other evidence from archaeology, literature, and documentary history led many to suppose that it evolved from an earlier Romano-British national symbol.[1] During the reigns of the Tudor monarchs, the red dragon was used as asupporter in the English Crown's coat of arms (one of two supporters, along with the traditional English lion).[2] The red dragon is often seen as symbolising all things Welsh, and is used by many public and private institutions. These include theWelsh GovernmentVisit Wales, and numerous local authoritiesincluding Blaenau GwentCardiffCarmarthenshireRhondda Cynon TafSwansea, and sports bodies, including the Sport Wales National Centre, the Football Association of WalesCardiff City F.C.Newport Gwent Dragons, and London Welsh RFC.
Nikprit

Ghosty the video that Anok posted is excellent. Puts a lot into perspective - well it did for me at least. 

I run a research on your Andrew Wommack too. His son died for 5 hrs & was raised from the dead apparently. Plus many other miracle cures he credits himself with like curing cancer for eg. Though you have to 'give in order to recieve' so if you want a miracle cure then put your hand deeply into your pocket. The guy is a con artist. And from from the South by the sound of him. 

Ghostliner

Cheers, I'll take a look at it over the weekend.

Ghostliner

From what I've seen him post elsewhere on the forums I'd say that MexiMartini isn't a fundie, at least not in the sense that Pastafarians use that term. He holds fundamentalist views, true, and I don't agree with them, but I also get the impression that he respects the choices that other people make.

For these reasons I'd like Mex to feel that he's welcome here. He is a Christian after all, and Satan is a Christian concept.

Nikprit

 

 

History of Britain Rise and Fall of the Druids BBC Documentary

Nikprit
Ghostliner wrote:

From what I've seen him post elsewhere on the forums I'd say that MexiMartini isn't a fundie, at least not in the sense that Pastafarians use that term. He holds fundamentalist views, true, and I don't agree with them, but I also get the impression that he respects the choices that other people make.

For these reasons I'd like Mex to feel that he's welcome here. He is a Christian after all, and Satan is a Christian concept.

Yes I like Mexi - I may not agree with him all the time but he is entitled to believe what he likes. 

Does this documentary below hold the answer to the OP's original question? 

 

FRENCHBASHER
ANOK1 a écrit :

pork is banned as a food source by two religions poss more but defo 2

islam and judaism , ever thought why ?

here is my theory

both are desert religions , pork goes off very quickly

the priest caste of both religions said god says no when in reality it was their call to prevent mass food poisoning

Correct, RIGHT ! I got that answer from a rabbi in Lille 1974 (France North), we both respected each other, he new i was baptised roman catho at the age of ...one day, and he was not at all avoiding me. We "talmuded hours and hours" and ty OP I find my youth here. Back in the roaring twenties, yeaaaah! 

1. what is a mirale,only pork, not goat norlambmeat in desert; interesting. He said :"Tenia !"

ooops! topic: I told the rabbi  a scoop :

we invented freezer, around 18xx !! ,

we had other people living NOT in a desert, ok they were not chosen by Jehovah, nobody is perfect, but Francois I, Leonardo Da vinci, etc ...may be interested too, etc ..

such a strange idea to leave in a desert ? ...or good way to be unhappy for the whole lifeLaughing. In those days i let him know,  I would'nt dare to do that today, people would lynch me,

some people used all means to be professional unhappy centuries long : located in a desert just beside Promised Land, ...and stay 40 years!!!  even african migs with various IQ don't do that nowadays.

building a wall to complain that pork was forbidden, but barbeQ smells good from irish villain neighbour on Saturday, torturing all a jewish family, olfactive antisemitism !!! Professional of compalint was my grand mother : sometimes it works, sometimes it don't.

and each year to forgive on the day kippour, and start the same behaviour following day. 

The rabbi said, dying to laugh :"you"deserve to be one of us, I never laughed with a Christian papist like today before".

And I invited him to a pork ribs party, he was for advanced refom judaism, not hassidim otherwise i wouldn't be alive.

If someone is offended, it cannot be the rabbi.Laughing? Hope I didn't offence ANOKO1 or this post we'll be deleted.

MEXIMARTINI

Anok, spirituality was always with me, I just turned my back on it.  I got saved at an early age.  Went away and never truly understood my faith until I was at the crossroad, so I understand where you are coming from as well.  To clarify, I do go to church, and actually the one where my membership was stripped.  I've a long way for sure, humility is the key. 

 

Anyway, thanks Ghostliner, for explaining this thread.  And thanks for your words, along with Nikprit.  You know folks, I could tell you what I believe in till i'm blue in the face but what does that do?   I mean, I will stand up for my beliefs and we can go back and forth, and discuss, I would hope for it to be a healthy conversation.   I know regarding this thread?  Holy balls, i'm lost.  it's def a good study for me.  Cool

ANOK1

i would so love a like button on posts , cos your last post meximartinin would get one from me

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