Is Satan invented?

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ANOK1 wrote:

i would so love a like button on posts , cos your last post meximartinin would get one from me

I will second that Mexi, though with a slight ammendment.

Ghostliner is a self confessed pirate. He will drink your rum, steal your plunder & have you ship wreck on the shores of his mind - if you are not careful Sealed (Just kidding of course).

It is the  First Ammendment policy in these forums bud. Glad to see you are back in it.  

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Nikprit wrote:
ANOK1 wrote:

i would so love a like button on posts , cos your last post meximartinin would get one from me

I will second that Mexi, though with a slight ammendment.







 


Ghostliner is a self confessed pirate. He will drink your rum, steal your plunder & have you ship wreck on the shores of his mind - if you are not careful  (Just kidding of course).

It is the  First Ammendment policy in these forums bud. Glad to see you are back in it.  

haha thanks fellas.  And thanks for the tip on Ghostliner!  Although, I have been known to cut people with my tongue..one of my favorite quotes was from my brother to me..."you cut people dawg, sometimes you just gotta knick them." after all, I am Mexican.  haha, meh, mhem....jus playin Ghostliner...go easy bruh, and save a couple drops for me to ease the pain just in case.

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Nikprit wrote:
ANOK1 wrote:

i would so love a like button on posts , cos your last post meximartinin would get one from me

I will second that Mexi, though with a slight ammendment.

Ghostliner is a self confessed pirate. He will drink your rum, steal your plunder & have you ship wreck on the shores of his mind - if you are not careful  (Just kidding of course).

It is the  First Ammendment policy in these forums bud. Glad to see you are back in it.  

He's right, honour me and we'll shout at the devil together. But cross me and you will find that under this playful, boyish exterior beats the heart of a brutal, sadistic maniac.

Nah nah, I'm kidding as well. The ruthless, cut-throat, pirate routine is just a front, I'm quite a gentle soul really (hehe).

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Satan cannot exist if we have ' freedom of choice'.

If he is powerless then he is a nonentity...

..but there is no use arguing is there?

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Satan is Santa.

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17rileyc wrote:

Satan is Santa.

Now we are getting somewhere Laughing
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Indeed!

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Bonjourr friends,

I wanted ty Op I learned things here about horned god from Gaulois and his use as pic' from Catholic to fire others religions.  

concerning Santa Claus = Satan, I remembered for truth peoplebeliving that it was some "reply" : the desire to fire Jesus birth celebration from collective meanings. We may consider that atheisit s in France fight hard against mayors building crèches (stables)  because of law separating state and Religion;  but they do NOTHING against big promotion of Santa Claus, called here Pere Noel, and theaeconomical disater of spendings and consumerism in poor families, public light massive expenses. 

Do u thing it is "God agaisnt Satan again", or just alternance, or pure fruit of imagination of an ole' man, me? Hope we can decipher what I wrote.Laughing

Bonne journée

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A stirring call to arms mates. And note that he appears to be wearing a cross - nice touch that, presumably he wishes to demonstrate that his statement is stringently non-sectarian.

"Why Not Nothing?", Richard Ashcroft:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cthIOxKGII

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Galloping Gambits! tm

What in the blue blazes is happening over on that Jesus barge?

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Did you get the time to scan that doc on The History of the Horned One? Interesting!! Sometimes we don't recall how everything is so layered & interwoven with a collective past going back 1,000's of years. 

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Nikprit wrote:

Did you get the time to scan that doc on The History of the Horned One? Interesting!! Sometimes we don't recall how everything is so layered & interwoven with a collective past going back 1,000's of years. 

 

I did indeed, it's fascinating. What has struck me since I launched this boat is the extent to which this is all a part of our collective history, as a species I mean.

Sadly, the historical narrative undergoes much abuse and distortion, does it not?

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Ghostliner wrote:

I did indeed, it's fascinating. What has struck me since I launched this boat is the extent to which this is all a part of our collective history, as a species I mean.

Sadly, the historical narrative undergoes much abuse and distortion, does it not?

Yes indeed a tremendous amount of distortions & abuse. The video made me realise too of how interconnected culture & religion are in regard to the synthesis of archetypes. The Persian influence via Zoroastrianism, the Egyptians & their gods. It was like a aha experience for me, as it became obvious that both those cultures were dominant prior to Abrahamic religions, therefore their influence would be quite profound on what emerged afterwards.

I was also reminded of Joseph Campbell's work, which I find  intriguing as he has the intelligence to make correlations cross culturally via symbolism. For example talking about the symbolic similarities between  the Native American Indians & say Catholic symbols. 

Nature symbolism is common it seems cross culturally. 

 

A collective consciousness perhaps interdependent upon what comes before & after in the case of Asia & Europe. However with the Indians being in the so called 'New World' & sperated....the question is....how are there still so many common denominators via symbolism?

Quite extra-ordinary the collective consciousness. 

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Nice Anok. Here are the lyrics.

Damh The Bard – Noon Of The Solstice Lyrics

In times long past
Lived a Man of green, 
And his footsteps brought life wherever he'd been.
In the deepest wildwood
Was the place he was seen, 
And the people did love
And protect him.
And they saw his face change, 
With the turn of the Wheel
Of the Seasons, 
They heard his voice sing.

(Chorus)
I'm the Horned God, 
I'm the face in the trees, 
I'm the breath of the wind that rustles the leaves, 
I'm the Green Man
In the wildwood I roam, 
Cernunnos, I'm Pan and I'm Herne.

I shall be as the Dark Holly King, 
Darkness and cold
In my cloak I will bring, 
And on Winter's nights
To me you will sing, 
Till the air around me starts changing, 
And on the noon of the solstice
I'll give up my crown, 
To the Light
And the Mighty Oak King.

All Summer long
I shall rule just and fair, 
Bring your crops to fruit
With the light that I share, 
With fire and water, 
From earth into air, 
But the Wheel it keeps
Steadily turning.
And on the noon of the Solstice
I'll give up my crown, 
To the cold and the Dark Holly King.

T'is now modern times
And the Summer is here, 
The Winter has gone
And the air it is clear, 
On a fine day I walked
Through a woods I live near, 
When a battle I spied
Through a clearing, 
Two giants of leaves, 
One light and one dark, 
Even now the Wheel it is turning!

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Ok, I've viewed the videos on pagan symbolism and the historical origins of Satan and I agree, both a real eye-opener. Particularly harrowing is the comment made by the US Military officer who led the siege on Fallujah in 2004: "Our enemy is Satan." Slightly surprised that particular piece of goofball idiocy was allowed into the public domain actually, but there you go.

Would like to see the Joseph Campbell piece too. All good stuff so far, many thanks.

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just justifiying their terrorism by claiming they are doing gods work there it seems , but thats a different subject isnt it

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A sub-narrative I'd say but yes you're right, not strictly on-topic.

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Heretic! Cool

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lol 113

For people considering Satan as NOT invented, bound to some aeternal hell, and considered as bad, they say his best trick is to let know he doesn't exist. 

Here we have some SATAN cults,bounded to cemeteries celebrations, black sabbath fests for real, some rituels satanics etc ...

Does it too in UK and CornwallLaughing ?

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