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kaynight wrote:

Gawwd.. I rest my case re. Psychiatrists.

Dr. J. B. Rhine, head of Duke University's Parapsychology Laboratory, has proved experimentally that man has access to knowledge, facts, and ideas, other than his own individual memory or stored information from learning or experience.

Telepathy, clairvoyance, precognition have been established by scientific laboratory experiments. His findings, that man possesses some "extra sensory factor," which he calls "Psi," are no longer doubted by scientists who have seriously reviewed his work.

{ Or would you rather go down the Cognitive Dissonance road?}

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Cheers Tom-Tom! have a nice glass of wine.You must prioritise the "Wine" thread.A lot of thirsty would-be members are getting needy!Tongue Out

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What's the purpose? Of being kind or mapping one's mind?

To be kind well it's just who I am. We naturally love. It's not to gain anything.

Of mapping my mind. Well to be healthy. I was chronically nervous.

I found though when I looked within that the idea we are told about who we are is false.

There is no I.
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I'll read and catch up when I can
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kaynight wrote:

No King, but I would say that Dr.Rhine is making a dream living as a charlatan, and good luck to him.. Shame on the mugs who fund him....

Shame on your blindness is more like it. Poster boy for see but don't see, hear but don't hear. I'm in the same boat, but your wrong on this one.

 

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kaynight wrote:

Time will tell.

It already has my friend..

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KingAxelson wrote:
kaynight wrote:

Gawwd.. I rest my case re. Psychiatrists.

Dr. J. B. Rhine, head of Duke University's Parapsychology Laboratory, has proved experimentally that man has access to knowledge, facts, and ideas, other than his own individual memory or stored information from learning or experience.

Telepathy, clairvoyance, precognition have been established by scientific laboratory experiments. His findings, that man possesses some "extra sensory factor," which he calls "Psi," are no longer doubted by scientists who have seriously reviewed his work.

{ Or would you rather go down the Cognitive Dissonance road?}

Start with a crooked conclusion--such as the existence of a soul--and one will arrive at false results. Scientists may be objective, generally speaking, until they have to interpret the results. That's when their personal bias invalidates their research, many a time, especially in a field where bias is aplenty, such as psychology."

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The Soul exist's. We differ, so be it.

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TomGa wrote:
What's the purpose? Of being kind or mapping one's mind?

To be kind well it's just who I am. We naturally love. It's not to gain anything.

Of mapping my mind. Well to be healthy. I was chronically nervous.

I found though when I looked within that the idea we are told about who we are is false.

There is no I.

 

 Of course,there is. It is a fact, despite hearing  nice theories. Always start from the fact.

And 'naturally ' we are animals. Despite certain instincts, that is not compassion. Don't invent something which isn't there. It might be, at some point, but humans aren't born with it--the program is active and unless it is deactivated, compassion is not.

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KingAxelson wrote:

The Soul exist's. We differ, so be it.

You cannot say either way, before your brain is very, very quiet. Otherwise one cannot see. So first, see if it can be quiet.

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troy7915 wrote:
KingAxelson wrote:

The Soul exist's. We differ, so be it.

You cannot say either way, before your brain is very, very quiet. Otherwise one cannot see. So first, see if it can be quiet.

Yes, I can Absolutely say.. The Soul does Exist! We differ. So What? It's an Internal thing your not in tune with. I get it. 

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No you cannot:your brain is not still. This is a fact. And a non-still brain cannot see. You can say anything, but without seeing it's only a speculation.

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No you cannot:your brain is not still. This is a fact. And a non-still brain cannot see. You can say anything, but without seeing it's only a speculation.

Your brain is not as open as you think it is. Furthermore, your credentials mean nothing to me. And by the way.. The Soul does exist as it always has! Truth.

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The 'soul' is a 'higher' vibrational form of 'matter' .. Commonly referred to as 'energy' - And, similar to 'electricity'.. It's commonly thought, {ie. 'electricity'}.. to be neither able, to be 'created' or 'destroyed'.. Which so far as I, or most anyone knows; Is an aspect, of being 'eternal.'

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Everyone, that I'm aware of, {that claims to have had, an 'obe' or 'out-of-body-experience'}.. reports, that their 'sight'..{whilst 'out-of-body'}.. if anything, surpasses what they could 'see' while 'in-their-body'.. Including, some testimonies, of '360 degree' vision.

Of course.. If people 'projecting' something, is a cornerstone of ones 'world view'.. Then, that is of considerably Less consequence! - Ya have to Experience an 'obe'..{as I have}, to be able to attest to that! .. And, No.. It's Not, merely, my fault-prone opinion/ observation.. Nor, of others, who've had an 'obe'.

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troy7915 wrote:

No you cannot:your brain is not still. This is a fact. And a non-still brain cannot see. You can say anything, but without seeing it's only a speculation.

Your brain is not as open as you think it is. Furthermore, your credentials mean nothing to me. And by the way.. The Soul does exist as it always has! Truth.

 

 Your brain is not still. It has nothing to do with another. As it is not still, it projects a soul and other such fairy tales.

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Stolen_Authenticity wrote:

The 'soul' is a 'higher' vibrational form of 'matter' .. Commonly referred to as 'energy' - And, similar to 'electricity'.. It's commonly thought, {ie. 'electricity'}.. to be neither able, to be 'created' or 'destroyed'.. Which so far as I, or most anyone knows; Is an aspect, of being 'eternal.'

 Thought projections of the superstitious mind.

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We have reached the point where responding to Troy is just not worth it anymore. Sadly, we will though. Tom, chin up and have some wine. [We know your online.]  Smile

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I wasn't expecting an answer, since there is nothing to say. A mind that is not quiet cannot help projecting.

So the point is not debating whether a so-called soul is a projection or not, but rather whether the mind can't help but project things, that is whether or not the mind is quiet.

The question becomes: how is the mind to become quiet? Otherwise, any fantasy that gives comfort to the mind becomes reality.

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KingAxelson wrote:

We have reached the point where responding to Troy is just not worth it anymore. Sadly, we will though. Tom, chin up and have some wine. [We know your online.]  

 

 

 

More re escapes from reality: the comforting notion of a 'soul', alcohol--what next?