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TomGa
Nov 24, 2016
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That said I know it's healthy not to worry.
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You know we can wonder about why we do the things we do.
Well I have posted on these threads quite a while and I have thought perhaps that was about evolving my notes on dealing with OCD.
I understand though that those notes aren't to change now. I wonder if I'll post here anymore.
Well I have posted on these threads quite a while and I have thought perhaps that was about evolving my notes on dealing with OCD.
I understand though that those notes aren't to change now. I wonder if I'll post here anymore.
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I enjoy just coming here and expressing myself.
I'm never sure if I'll talk or what I'll say.
I suppose I'll stay as long as I'm interested in what I'm saying and hearing.
I do enjoy you guys.
I'm never sure if I'll talk or what I'll say.
I suppose I'll stay as long as I'm interested in what I'm saying and hearing.
I do enjoy you guys.
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#125
Anyway I'm going to change my title. I know the truth so I'm not interested in exploring deeply any longer. I'll start a new thread.
Tom-Tom.Now's the time to start decking the halls with Holly etc.It's never too early. Ho Ho Ho!
troy7915 wrote:
learningthemoves wrote:
A response of "neither" to those two choices indicates life is neither meaningful nor meaningless.
No. 'Neither' referred to 'optimism' and 'pessimism'. The meaningful/less part came after 'optimism' was given a green light. Since that's not it, there is no reference to meaning, since its inference was incorrect.
First, the false must go: both 'optimism' and 'pessimism'--there is no meaning there.
Troy7915,
In modern Philosophy, the terms optimistic and pessimistic are the standard terms for classification of views on the meaning of life (Vaughn).
Pessimistic is the classification for views believing life is not worthwhile, has no meaning or purpose -- either internal or external.
Optimistic is the classification for views believing life has meaning.
Within the optimist view, there are two subgroups referred to as:
Internalist view or Externalist view.
Internalists view the meaning of life as the meaning they place on it themselves.
Externalists view the meaning of life as the purpose someone outside of themselves place on it such as God's purpose.
Everything I said was absolutely correct.
Work Cited
Vaughn, Lewis. “The Meaning of Life.” Philosophy Here And Now Powerful Ideas In Everyday Life, 2nd ed., Oxford University Press, 2016, pp. 390–409.
Correct in reproducing those views, but false in content, regardless of authorities.
Either way, positive or negative, optimism or pessimism, internal or external, are just beliefs. They don't see either way, only speculate, assume. No meaning in those assumptions.
Meaning comes only when there is seeing. Not speculating. Which means one must first be free from belief, from fear, before they can even talk about meaning.
Not false in content.
Reproducing those "views," you say?
And meaning comes only when there is "seeing," you say?
Your view is how you see it. 
I didn't post here to have a "I'm right/You're wrong, No, I'm right, You're wrong!" - type discussion, but rather a free share of ideas.
Ideas are meaningless, what matters is the fact. And as long as there is a slant--positive or negative--that bias denies the facts.
Being free of belief is what matters, not ithat bias sprouting off that ideas.
So the bias must go. The mind must be quiet, free of ideas, empty, peaceful. This is not another idea. The noisy brain, full of beliefs--positive or negative--cannot see clearly.
Huh?
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