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ThemajesticFalcon wrote:

Does anyone in this forum actually practice meditation? I do and a lot of what is being said here is wrong.

Like what?

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anyway I accept that I'm not familiar with these things as you guys are. 

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 Haha, the very practice is 'wrong'! The practice of meditation keeps meditation at bay...However, other things are being achieved through practice, meditation is not one of them.

  Edit: that was in response to Falcon's.

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I used to do it when younger.

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xming wrote:
troy7915 wrote:
xming wrote:
troy7915 wrote:
xming wrote:

agree.  The thing I try to keep my eye on  is the noun vs the verb.

We can be meditating = verb

  I don't think we can!

Once again: The meditator, the act of meditation, the state of meditation.  What are you resisting here?

   The resistance is born when separation is introduced. If those three are separate, meditation is not.

Would you please be more coherent?

Meditation is not...what? 

  It was self-explanatory. Meditation is not means it doesn't exist ( when separation exists).

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Pulpofeira wrote:

I used to do it when younger.

 

  Yoga is yoga and meditation is meditation.

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I don't know the difference.

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Siesta is both of them and much more.

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I will clarify troy

Your ignorance is bliss for you

since you lack any knowledge of anything said here.

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JennbeIoved wrote:

I don't know the difference.

  Yoga is a tehnique, meditation is not.

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They both achieve the same results.

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@troy (#270)...In who's world does it not exist?  Why is there a word for something that does not exist? Why has the concept of meditation been alive and well since at least 2500BC?  This following sentence is something that does not exist:                 .

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troy7915 wrote:
JennbeIoved wrote:

I don't know the difference.

  Yoga is a tehnique, meditation is not.

Now you are talking of something you say does not exist? 

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mdinnerspace wrote:

I will clarify troy

Your ignorance is bliss for you

since you lack any knowledge of anything said here.

  I am not talking from knowledge, but from direct experience.

  Now, what is it that you think it's not a fact, from what was said? Don't say 'everything', a generalization is meaningless. Start with one thing and I will look at it.

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xming wrote:
troy7915 wrote:
JennbeIoved wrote:

I don't know the difference.

  Yoga is a tehnique, meditation is not.

Now you are talking of something you say does not exist? 

  No, I am saying it's not a tehnique, it cannot be achieved through a tehnique, that is, it cannot be ahieved through practice. That's all I'm saying.

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Wrong by troy and Jenn and wrong again. None of you have ever practiced a true form of meditation.

Most everybody here is talking out their ass, with no reference point but their misconceptions and made up bs.

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xming wrote:

@troy (#270)...In who's world does it not exist?  Why is there a word for something that does not exist? Why has the concept of meditation been alive and well since at least 2500BC?  This following sentence is something that does not exist:                 .

   Forget what others teach or blame. That is meaningless, because we are such imitating creatures that we repeat what we hear without questioning, and what is considered to be meditation may be anything but.

  I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I'm only saying it cannot be practiced.

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Troy is a troll. Looking for attention by making irrational, outrages nonsensical statements. A new member of 2 months from Beverly Hills, yet to play a single game of chess.

A troll folks, I suggest ignoring him.

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troy7915 wrote:
xming wrote:
troy7915 wrote:
JennbeIoved wrote:

I don't know the difference.

  Yoga is a tehnique, meditation is not.

Now you are talking of something you say does not exist? 

  No, I am saying it's not a tehnique, it cannot be achieved through a tehnique, that is, it cannot be ahieved through practice. That's all I'm saying.

I think the Buddha may disagree with you on that.

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troy7915 wrote:
xming wrote:

@troy (#270)...In who's world does it not exist?  Why is there a word for something that does not exist? Why has the concept of meditation been alive and well since at least 2500BC?  This following sentence is something that does not exist:                 .

   Forget what others teach or blame. That is meaningless, because we are such imitating creatures that we repeat what we hear without questioning, and what is considered to be meditation may be anything but.

  I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I'm only saying it cannot be practiced.

The meditator can practice the act of meditation to experience the state of meditation.

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