anyway I accept that I'm not familiar with these things as you guys are.
nirvana & meditation
Haha, the very practice is 'wrong'! The practice of meditation keeps meditation at bay...However, other things are being achieved through practice, meditation is not one of them.
Edit: that was in response to Falcon's.
agree. The thing I try to keep my eye on is the noun vs the verb.
We can be meditating = verb
I don't think we can!
Once again: The meditator, the act of meditation, the state of meditation. What are you resisting here?
The resistance is born when separation is introduced. If those three are separate, meditation is not.
Would you please be more coherent?
Meditation is not...what?
It was self-explanatory. Meditation is not means it doesn't exist ( when separation exists).
I will clarify troy
Your ignorance is bliss for you
since you lack any knowledge of anything said here.
@troy (#270)...In who's world does it not exist? Why is there a word for something that does not exist? Why has the concept of meditation been alive and well since at least 2500BC? This following sentence is something that does not exist: .
I don't know the difference.
Yoga is a tehnique, meditation is not.
Now you are talking of something you say does not exist?
I will clarify troy
Your ignorance is bliss for you
since you lack any knowledge of anything said here.
I am not talking from knowledge, but from direct experience.
Now, what is it that you think it's not a fact, from what was said? Don't say 'everything', a generalization is meaningless. Start with one thing and I will look at it.
I don't know the difference.
Yoga is a tehnique, meditation is not.
Now you are talking of something you say does not exist?
No, I am saying it's not a tehnique, it cannot be achieved through a tehnique, that is, it cannot be ahieved through practice. That's all I'm saying.
Wrong by troy and Jenn and wrong again. None of you have ever practiced a true form of meditation.
Most everybody here is talking out their ass, with no reference point but their misconceptions and made up bs.
@troy (#270)...In who's world does it not exist? Why is there a word for something that does not exist? Why has the concept of meditation been alive and well since at least 2500BC? This following sentence is something that does not exist: .
Forget what others teach or blame. That is meaningless, because we are such imitating creatures that we repeat what we hear without questioning, and what is considered to be meditation may be anything but.
I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I'm only saying it cannot be practiced.
Troy is a troll. Looking for attention by making irrational, outrages nonsensical statements. A new member of 2 months from Beverly Hills, yet to play a single game of chess.
A troll folks, I suggest ignoring him.
I don't know the difference.
Yoga is a tehnique, meditation is not.
Now you are talking of something you say does not exist?
No, I am saying it's not a tehnique, it cannot be achieved through a tehnique, that is, it cannot be ahieved through practice. That's all I'm saying.
I think the Buddha may disagree with you on that.
@troy (#270)...In who's world does it not exist? Why is there a word for something that does not exist? Why has the concept of meditation been alive and well since at least 2500BC? This following sentence is something that does not exist: .
Forget what others teach or blame. That is meaningless, because we are such imitating creatures that we repeat what we hear without questioning, and what is considered to be meditation may be anything but.
I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I'm only saying it cannot be practiced.
The meditator can practice the act of meditation to experience the state of meditation.
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Does anyone in this forum actually practice meditation? I do and a lot of what is being said here is wrong.
Like what?