Oh yes, for me I believe nutrient source can be equal, depends on how you choose your vegetarian diet.
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HexyAndINoed wrote:
JessieWong wrote:
So it's true, no matter youre vegetarian or non vegetarian, you still have the chance to be unhealthy for example obesity. So vegetarian should be blame for such unhealthy condition actually, but it's unhealthy eating habit should be blame.
Healthy isn't an on / off switch. there are degrees of health. Vegetarianism is unhealthy when better diets are available. Unless you don't have access to them, it's a slight mistake where eating junk food would be a blunder, if we're going to make chess analogies. Would the top players in chess be worse players if they became vegetarians? Yes, of course. Would that be a significant enough difference to change the rankings? maybe, but probably not by too much. a top 10 player isn't suddenly going to become a top 1000 player over this.
Healthy isn't on off switch , but as long they can proceed their chess career and goal, why not they keep going? It's not causing them trouble for their vegetarian diets.
JessieWong wrote:
Oh yes, for me I believe nutrient source can be equal, depends on how you choose your vegetarian diet.
That's why you're uninformed. The best vegetarian diet doesn't measure up to the best diets. It's strictly inferior, unless you want to correct all the medical doctors, nutritionists and such that have already proven otherwise.
They can still proceed to aim for top 10 chess player even though they are practicing vegetarian. So I don't see there's problem with it...they need practice hard in chess which is more important!
You can keep saying that vegetarians diets are inferior, and I'll keep my point of view on not saying their vegetarians diets is inferior ...at least that's what I saw them being still fit and pink of health 😋
JessieWong wrote:
They can still proceed to aim for top 10 chess player even though they are practicing vegetarian. So I don't see there's problem with it...they need practice hard in chess which is more mportant!
There are definitely bigger fish to fry but being a vegetarian is somewhat of a disadvantage in the way that having an IQ 15 points lower would also be a disadvantage. It's a disadvantage like getting worse sleep, or playing under jetlagged conditions, or having some emotional trouble / stress. Qualitive differences are cumulative, they alter your over all wellness profile and lead to different results.
JessieWong wrote:
You can keep saying that vegetarians diets are inferior, and I'll keep my point of view on not saying their vegetarians diets is inferior ...at least that's what I saw them being still fit and pink of health
And you will continue to lose to your vegetarian friends in board games. Carlsen won't, I won't and others won't. I'm sure they are healthy, good at chess or whatever else. They just aren't quite as good as their non vegetarian selves would be.
I'll continue to agree with nutritionists, medical doctors and other experts. Informed opinions are superior to uninformed ones, when it comes to anything objective or scientific.
HexyAndINoed wrote:
JessieWong wrote:
They can still proceed to aim for top 10 chess player even though they are practicing vegetarian. So I don't see there's problem with it...they need practice hard in chess which is more mportant!
There are definitely bigger fish to fry but being a vegetarian is somewhat of a disadvantage in the way that having an IQ 15 points lower would also be a disadvantage. It's a disadvantage like getting worse sleep, or playing under jetlagged conditions, or having some emotional trouble / stress. Qualitive differences are cumulative, they alter your over all wellness profile and lead to different results.
Can you show me some authoritative sources about saying vegetarian are IQ 15 points lower? I will like to read it...
HexyAndINoed wrote:
JessieWong wrote:
You can keep saying that vegetarians diets are inferior, and I'll keep my point of view on not saying their vegetarians diets is inferior ...at least that's what I saw them being still fit and pink of health
And you will continue to lose to your vegetarian friends in board games. Carlsen won't, I won't and others won't. I'm sure they are healthy, good at chess or whatever else. They just aren't quite as good as their non vegetarian selves would be.
I'll continue to agree with nutritionists, medical doctors and other experts. Informed opinions are superior to uninformed ones, when it comes to anything objective or scientific.
Chill ....saying me losing to others doesn't change things.
JessieWong wrote:
HexyAndINoed wrote:
JessieWong wrote:
They can still proceed to aim for top 10 chess player even though they are practicing vegetarian. So I don't see there's problem with it...they need practice hard in chess which is more mportant!
There are definitely bigger fish to fry but being a vegetarian is somewhat of a disadvantage in the way that having an IQ 15 points lower would also be a disadvantage. It's a disadvantage like getting worse sleep, or playing under jetlagged conditions, or having some emotional trouble / stress. Qualitive differences are cumulative, they alter your over all wellness profile and lead to different results.
Can you show me some authoritative sources about saying vegetarian are IQ 15 points lower? I will like to read it...
being a vegetarian is somewhat of a disadvantage in the way that having an IQ 15 points lower would also be a disadvantage.
hmmm can you show me some scientific references about this? I haven't read about it😅
JessieWong wrote:
HexyAndINoed wrote:
JessieWong wrote:
They can still proceed to aim for top 10 chess player even though they are practicing vegetarian. So I don't see there's problem with it...they need practice hard in chess which is more mportant!
There are definitely bigger fish to fry but being a vegetarian is somewhat of a disadvantage in the way that having an IQ 15 points lower would also be a disadvantage. It's a disadvantage like getting worse sleep, or playing under jetlagged conditions, or having some emotional trouble / stress. Qualitive differences are cumulative, they alter your over all wellness profile and lead to different results.
Can you show me some authority sources about saying vegetarian are IQ 15 points lower? I will like to read it...
I didn't claim vegetarians have a difference of 15 IQ. I compared being a vegetarian to other qualitive differences like being emotionally / mentally unwell, not resting properly, having a lower IQ etc.
Before you consult sources, you have to improve your reading comprehension. Stay in school, graduate then go to university for the appropriate course. Alternatively, if you don't want to become a nutritionist or work in a related field, you can go to the library while you're there. Most tuitions come with some really great libraries and databases, if reading is your thing you will enjoy and i'm sure it will be quite eye opening indeed.
Nov 28, 2020
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Veggies have no chance for the top. Anand was lucky in his time.. didint challenge a real meat eater.
Anand is 50 btw.. his journey ended long ago. still looks young but thats all.. 
gdzen wrote:
Veggies have no chance for the top. Anand was lucky in his time.. didint challenge a real meat eater.
Anand is 50 btw.. his journey ended long ago. still looks young but thats all..
Pfft, lol . Thanks for posting.
HexyAndINoed wrote:
JessieWong wrote:
They can still proceed to aim for top 10 chess player even though they are practicing vegetarian. So I don't see there's problem with it...they need practice hard in chess which is more mportant!
There are definitely bigger fish to fry but being a vegetarian is somewhat of a disadvantage in the way that having an IQ 15 points lower would also be a disadvantage. It's a disadvantage like getting worse sleep, or playing under jetlagged conditions, or having some emotional trouble / stress. Qualitive differences are cumulative, they alter your over all wellness profile and lead to different results.
but being a vegetarian is somewhat of a disadvantage in the way that having an IQ 15 points lower would also be a disadvantage. It's a disadvantage like getting worse sleep, or playing under jetlagged conditions, or having some emotional trouble / stress.
I'm still waiting for your solid proof and scientific studies about this....
I bet it's not difficult for you to find an authoritative sources about your statement 😋
but being a vegetarian is somewhat of a disadvantage in the way that having an IQ 15 points lower would also be a disadvantage. It's a disadvantage like getting worse sleep, or playing under jetlagged conditions, or having some emotional trouble / stress.
or is it easy to just say your subjective view instead of scientific fact...
Although I'm not a professional chess player, I'm not Indian and I'm not even vegetarian, but just accusing those vegetarian diet takers of being inferior without valid studies, is totally not logic lol
JessieWong wrote:
I bet it's not difficult for you to find an authoritative sources about your statement 😋
but being a vegetarian is somewhat of a disadvantage in the way that having an IQ 15 points lower would also be a disadvantage. It's a disadvantage like getting worse sleep, or playing under jetlagged conditions, or having some emotional trouble / stress.
or is it easy to just say your subjective view instead of scientific fact...
I didn't claim vegetarians have a difference of 15 IQ. I compared being a vegetarian to other qualitive differences like being emotionally / mentally unwell, not resting properly, having a lower IQ etc.
Before you consult sources, you have to improve your reading comprehension. Stay in school, graduate then go to university for the appropriate course. Alternatively, if you don't want to become a nutritionist or work in a related field, you can go to the library while you're there. Most tuitions come with some really great libraries and databases, if reading is your thing you will enjoy and i'm sure it will be quite eye opening indeed.
Nov 28, 2020
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#59
Jessie i thought you were a vegiee you have a chinese flag.. and i was like "wat?" hehe..
not even possible you know
but being a vegetarian is somewhat of a disadvantage in the way that having an IQ 15 points lower would also be a disadvantage. It's a disadvantage like getting worse sleep, or playing under jetlagged conditions, or having some emotional trouble / stress.
I know, so you don't even have valid references for this ? Oh ok I understand , you can have your own subjective personal view.
So it's true, no matter youre vegetarian or non vegetarian, you still have the chance to be unhealthy for example obesity. So vegetarian should be blame for such unhealthy condition actually, but it's unhealthy eating habit should be blame.
Healthy isn't an on / off switch. there are degrees of health. Vegetarianism is unhealthy when better diets are available. Unless you don't have access to them, it's a slight mistake where eating junk food would be a blunder, if we're going to make chess analogies. Would the top players in chess be worse players if they became vegetarians? Yes, of course. Would that be a significant enough difference to change the rankings? maybe, but probably not by too much. a top 10 player isn't suddenly going to become a top 1000 player over this.