NO. Properties of the quantum wave are NOT known ? STOP right there. None, maybe you know some. Let's try ? I mean waves are waves, there must be some common properties. Otherwise if you use the expression Quantum Wave, neither you nor I know what you are talking about.
Has Light got a decay factor?
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RPaulB wrote:
NO. Properties of the quantum wave are NOT known ? STOP right there. None, maybe you know some. Let's try ? I mean waves are waves, there must be some common properties. Otherwise if you use the expression Quantum Wave, neither you nor I know what you are talking about.
Ok, now we are getting somewhere. Richard Feynman cleared up the wave/particle duality for us. In order for the photon to seek out an infinity of paths inside the Quantum Wave the energy inside the Quantum Wave must be in the entangled state.
don't stop...I'm just starting to get interested. Why must it be entangled? It is but WHY? Did Einstein deduce it like in one of his thought experiments or did it come out of the maths? The spooky action at a distance suggests a possible unknown dimension or the worm hole theory is correct where time doesn't exist and is an important criteria for the Unified Model to work. As lola reminded us, if energy can't be created or destroyed there must be a mechanism for introducing and removing energy from this reality.
It must be entangled in order for the photon inside the Quantum Wave to seek out an infinity of paths to locate the the path of least action. The spooky action at a distance mechanism is symmetric change, not some unknown dimension. There is a random process that passes thru particles/waves, planets/stars and galaxies, black holes/worm holes, entangled state of energy. The free floating energy mass loosens the entangled state to create voids. The energy mass warps the space/time voids. There is no need for the energy that can't be created or destroyed to be introduced or removed from this reality. It simply cycles thru the states of energy just described above randomly.The exception against the absolute of no space and no time is an infinite number of universes.
There is no such thing as getting something from nothing. Nothing is impossible because of the principle against absolutes.
If nothing is impossible then introduced zero number in math is a mistake ?
Fifthelement wrote:
If nothing is impossible then introduced zero number in math is a mistake ?
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Zero is only a concept. It is NOT reality. It is only a place keeper in mathematics. It is the beginning point for the left - right of the first dimension. Absolute no space and no time is impossible. Only the exceptions of an infinity of universes is what exists.
It is interesting to reevaluate the philosophy concept in math with the potential of math to describe the universe.
Fifthelement wrote:
It is interesting to reevaluate the philosophy concept in math with the potential of math to describe the universe.
Yes, mathematics is the wireframe of the universe!
NO !....math itself is just a concept. Just like what u called zero. Nature doesn't care about math, right ? We made math up 2try2 explain the U & everything in it !
4 only exists here on earth as 2 + 2 but doesn't = 4 as we get farther & farther from Earth.
....on the clock OR on the ruler.
And that's why we can't figure out any important questions.....burp.
I agree with you almost 100%, except for the last line.
Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
NO !....math itself is just a concept. Just like what u called zero. Nature doesn't care about math, right ? We made math up 2try2 explain the U & everything in it !
4 only exists here on earth as 2 + 2 but doesn't = 4 as we get farther & farther from Earth.
....on the clock OR on the ruler.
And that's why we can't figure out any important questions.....burp.
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Mathematics first connection to matter is their expression as harmonics.
RPaulB wrote:
I agree with you almost 100%, except for the last line.
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There are no absolutes, and the exception proves the rule.
Is that the one you mean?
Grigori Perelman came up with the proof of the Poincare Conjecture and Thurston's Geometrization. Thurston's Geometrization is the field of mathematics that deals with determining the shape of the universe. Perelman's proof proves that it is impossible to determine the shape of the universe because the universe is infinite and infinity has no bounds.
Finally absolutes and infinity are mutually exclusive. The only thing left is an infinity of exception universes.
Sorry fieldofforce; Ghostess Lola is correct. We make math up and it DOES NOT fit our universe. It's wrong from the first step. Time and Distance are not continuous. They are discrete. So start there. OR tell us that is not TRUE !!! She noted " on the clock OR on the ruler".
RPaulB wrote:
Sorry fieldofforce; Ghostess Lola is correct. We make math up and it DOES NOT fit our universe. It's wrong from the first step. Time and Distance are not continuous. They are discrete. So start there. OR tell us that is not TRUE !!! She noted " on the clock OR on the ruler".
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Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
"...We make math up and it DOES NOT fit our universe. It's wrong from the first step..."
On the contrary, the perspective of our math fits as closely as we can our universe. Mathematics is our truest interpretation of how our universe truly is.
In other words, we didn't make mathematics up, no, we copied it from how the universe is. Mathematics is the wireframe of the universe.
Emmy Noether wrote a mathematical thesis about symmetry. Symmetry is intrinsic to the conservation of energy (https://www.google.com/search?q=Emmy+Noether+theorem&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-ab).
Group Theory is the field of mathematics that studies Symmetry. The mathematics of Spontaneous Symmetry Breakdown is real in our universe. The present epic is 5% Baryonic Energy. 3 Nobel prizes have been awarded in Spontaneous Symmetry Breakdown. The lastest confirmed observation of Spontaneous Symmetry Breakdown was at the Enrico Fermi Lab where it was found that atomic radiation discharge is actually electricy, magnetism and the weak force. It became known as the electroweak force in our universe.
Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
NO !....math itself is just a concept. Just like what u called zero. Nature doesn't care about math, right ? We made math up 2try2 explain the U & everything in it !
4 only exists here on earth as 2 + 2 but doesn't = 4 as we get farther & farther from Earth.
....on the clock OR on the ruler.
And that's why we can't figure out any important questions.....burp.
I believe they've even made a formula to describe love. Which highlight how 'maths' can delude us into accepting theory which are based on maths even it's mathematical sophistry ...Can maths explain how it's impossible to find a plumber on a sunday? I don't think so. The mathematical construct of the Big Bang is many many factors to the power 10 in error to the observational data but what the hey...!
Iknowthemoves wrote:
Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
NO !....math itself is just a concept. Just like what u called zero. Nature doesn't care about math, right ? We made math up 2try2 explain the U & everything in it !
4 only exists here on earth as 2 + 2 but doesn't = 4 as we get farther & farther from Earth.
....on the clock OR on the ruler.
And that's why we can't figure out any important questions.....burp.
I believe they've even made a formula to describe love. Which highlight how 'maths' can delude us into accepting theory which are based on maths even it's mathematical sophistry ...Can maths explain how it's impossible to find a plumber on a sunday? I don't think so. The mathematical construct of the Big Bang is many many factors to the power 10 in error to the observational data but what the hey...!
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Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
"...We make math up and it DOES NOT fit our universe. It's wrong from the first step..."
On the contrary, the perspective of our math fits as closely as we can our universe. Mathematics is our truest interpretation of how our universe truly is.
In other words, we didn't make mathematics up, no, we copied it from how the universe is. Mathematics is the wireframe of the universe.
Emmy Noether wrote a mathematical thesis about symmetry. Symmetry is intrinsic to the conservation of energy (https://www.google.com/search?q=Emmy+Noether+theorem&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-ab).
Group Theory is the field of mathematics that studies Symmetry. The mathematics of Spontaneous Symmetry Breakdown is real in our universe. The present epic is 5% Baryonic Energy. 3 Nobel prizes have been awarded in Spontaneous Symmetry Breakdown. The lastest confirmed observation of Spontaneous Symmetry Breakdown was at the Enrico Fermi Lab where it was found that atomic radiation discharge is actually electricy, magnetism and the weak force. It became known as the electroweak force in our universe.
Iknowthemoves wrote:
Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
NO !....math itself is just a concept. Just like what u called zero. Nature doesn't care about math, right ? We made math up 2try2 explain the U & everything in it !
4 only exists here on earth as 2 + 2 but doesn't = 4 as we get farther & farther from Earth.
....on the clock OR on the ruler.
And that's why we can't figure out any important questions.....burp.
I believe they've even made a formula to describe love. Which highlights how 'maths' can delude us into accepting theory which are based on maths when it's mathematical sophistry ...Can maths explain how it's impossible to find a plumber on a sunday? I don't think so. The mathematical construct of the Big Bang is many many factors to the power 10 in error to the observational data but what the hey...!
Fieldsofforce; Is time and distance continuous or discrete ? If you imply continuous, and they aren't, then everything you have ever said here is incorrect. It's that simple. Ghostess Lola; I am a little surprised that you were able to understand that time and distance in math do not fit our universe. May I ask you how you were able to analyze that concept ? Very, very few people can do that. Maybe this forum helped. Photons do decay.
I assume the answer is yes. But what are the properties of the quantum wave ? I should also ask what are the properties of a wave (nonquantum ) and what are the differences between the two ?.
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First we are not concerned with nonquantum waves here. In the Quantum Physics I know properties inside the Quantum Wave are not known. It is not possible to see inside the Quantum Wave without collapsing it. Ok, so far.