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Some of us are already in trouble.

But he summed it up quite well on my notes:

"  I have to be pretty sure becauce 99.9 % agree with Elroch. Of course that's what he said. I keep telling him there are 100 different theories on gravity, at best, only one can be right."

And I agree assuming everything he says is "wrong" is very unscientific

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Bilbo21 wrote:

Some of us are already in trouble.

But he summed it up quite well on my notes:

"  I have to be pretty sure becauce 99.9 % agree with Elroch. Of course that's what he said. I keep telling him there are 100 different theories on gravity, at best, only one can be right."

And I agree assuming everything he says is "wrong" is very unscientific

Nonsense. Relativity explains gravity just fine.Their are some minor tweaks,same with Evolution,By Natural Selection,that's all.

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Bilbo21 wrote:

Some of us are already in trouble.

But he summed it up quite well on my notes:

"  I have to be pretty sure becauce 99.9 % agree with Elroch. Of course that's what he said. I keep telling him there are 100 different theories on gravity, at best, only one can be right."

And I agree assuming everything he says is "wrong" is very unscientific

I'd agree with the last statement. But sometimes he helps by being verifiably wrong.

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I think if a person has been rejecting metaphysics since they got their science degree ?....then sadly, they've missed out on all those years of their life.

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Not even sure what you mean by that. Navel-gazing about existence is not an essential part of anyone's life.

But let's get back to topic.

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Then I'd venture to guess their EQ is somewhat stunted since their days at the university.

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The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

Then I'd venture to guess their EQ is somewhat stunted since their days at the university.

Why would someone who has pursued science to degree level be precluded from thinking about anything else? I encounter this argument all the time and I don't understand it. Einstein was arguably the most celebrated scientist of the 20th century but he was also a deeply spiritual and creative person, and he remained so right to the end of his life.

What drives this determination of yours to stick everyone in a box?

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'Cuz your avatar is a box....for starters. And you're in there somewhere ! Wink

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All I'm saying is fully dismissing metaphysics is naive, idealistic, and for simpletons.

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So that's most of the human race insulted then. I would say it's fair to say most people don't even know what metaphysics (a rather esoteric and old term) is.

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Reincarnation is a happy place for an atheist. Don't you think GL ? I mean, also should shape-shifting be kicked to the curb ? They say animals thruout the kingdom all possess some level of consciousness.

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Perhaps it was I who studied the stars....1000 years ago

Or maybe 'twas I who mapped that lake....when I was there alone

Is it only me ?....who wonders why snow is meant to fall

Will it be I who proves that death is not at all ?        

I've worn many faces & gathered many notes

but it's always been me in this old borrowed coat.

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It is he who has brought you into being from the earth

All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.

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Heisenberg ?....you have principles Smile .

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Think about it everyone. We need food, clothing, and shelter. Transportation is below us (our legs). IOW's, other transportation is a convenience !

We are the same ppl as 500 years ago. Ppl are always confuzing want w/ need.

My aunt will be 104 next Friday and she's not in a nursing home !

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Once upon a time there was an old-old woman. Her son wanted everything he could possess....all the world's fortunes. For years she tried to convince him that it wouldn't bring him happiness, but he wouldn't listen. So one day she took him out in a big giant open field with all the mountains & lakes & rivers. And all the birds & bees & flowers & trees (but not the moon up above Smile ).

She brought along three wooden stakes and a shovel at the moment of sunrise. She said, "Now my dear son, go claim your earthly wants with these wooden stakes. One for each corner of your so desired domain."

She then said, "Now, you have just one rule. You must be back here by the time the sun goes down." She hugged & kissed him and off he went to for his life's bounty.

She waited & waited & waited for him. As sunset approached ?....there he was. She could see him in the far-far distance huffing & puffing (& puffing & huffing some more). Finally, he got to her staggering to a near crawl....bewildered & near lifeless.

It was there he collapsed & died right there in her arms. She hugged & kissed him one last time. She picked up the shovel, dug a hole, and buried him right then.

She knew inside that it would be the only land he ever truly needed.

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He really should have kept in better shape.

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....Laughing....

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if it were me, i would have just taken the steaks

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Elroch ?....can you pleez do me a favor ? Can you figure out how many people in the USA/Territories there are that are 104 or older ? I can't find it online in the census stuff.

They do say that, in the USA/Territories, there are about 54,000 people 100 years or older. If I divide that number by 2, then there are 27000 ppl at 101....13,500 @ 102, & so on.

Keep going and you get about 50 ppl (census) @ 110 yo....which is about right.

Keep going and you get about 1 person (census) @ 115 yo....which is right (I think).

My math is weird, I know, but it felt right. From it all, I get about 3,400 ppl who are 104 or older today.

I wanna tell my aunt next week on her birthday how many ppl have made 104 ! Smile

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Thinking about it more, there's probably more 'cuz it's not a straight line thingy.

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I think you are about right. I recall the rule of thumb of half per year after a century.

But how about this story?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35068423