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Raspberry_Yoghurt
May 5, 2016
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#1301
pawnkeeper wrote:

I have read enough to believe you are wrong. I also know that each species reproduces after its own kind. That alone kills evolution.

No you havn't. Maybe you read some creationist websites or something, but you have been nowhere near a real book on evolution.

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Raspberry_Yoghurt
May 5, 2016
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#1302
Senior-Lazarus_Long wrote:
pawnkeeper wrote:
Senior-Lazarus_Long wrote:

The Earth is teeming with life, and apparently humans have only identified one-thousandth of 1 percent of the various species that call the planet home. A new study out of Indiana University, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, reveals that Earth could contain nearly 1 trillion species

So, do you have a point? Each species is individual. Not evolving into something else.

 

All from one ancestor. Evolution is awesome.

In the study of early life on Earth, one name towers above the rest: LUCA. LUCA is not the name of a famous scientist in the field; it is shorthand for Last UniversalCommon Ancestor, a single cell that lived perhaps 3 or 4 billion years ago, and from which all life has since evolved. Amazingly, every living thing we see around us (and many more that we can only see with the aid of a microscope) is related. As far as we can tell, life on Earth arose only once.

Is anything known about the LUCA guy?

I guess you can maybe see a bit what he was like from the DNA-code most widely shared?

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Raspberry_Yoghurt
May 5, 2016
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#1303
pawnkeeper wrote:
alex-rodriguez wrote:

"its own kind"

The word "kind". Science deniers love that word. Biologists never use it. Of course they don't it destroys evolution.

You don't know anything sir and that's obvious to every educated person here. Are you an educated snob who just likes to put people down who you disagree with? Sure seems like.

 

Well it's not a problem to be uneducted.

But it is a problem being uenducated plus stubborn and making false claims about thinks you don't understand anything about.

Everybody here has things they don't know about. But most people are aware of when you don't know much about something, so you try to learn from the people who do and, you don't just blurt out wild and stubborn claims that this and that is so and so like you do.

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Elroch
May 5, 2016
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#1304

Suzanne Vega wrote a really nice song about LUKA.

 

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Biotk
May 5, 2016
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#1305
Raspberry_Yoghurt wrote:

Everybody here has things they don't know about. But most people are aware of when you don't know much about something, so you try to learn from the people who do and, you don't just blurt out wild and stubborn claims that this and that is so and so like you do.

I disagree.  Most people are completely unaware of how ignorant they are on most topics.  They will admit that they are not experts on topic "x" but they still feel that the position they were naturally drawn to must be the correct one.  Most people only try to learn from people who are espousing a position that they already agree with.  Most people do blurt out wild and stubborn claims about various topics.  

Denying evolution in the 21st century is sad, but most people deny all kinds of strongly supported science, strongly hold views which are supported by weak evidence and contradicted by stronger evidence, and try to rationalize positions that they came to based on feeling or ideology.

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wraithleader
May 5, 2016
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#1306

also for ananya 2040, sperm and egg are like seed water and soil. not evolving but growing. as for the triilion other posts people have made, its to much for someone like me to read.

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Raspberry_Yoghurt
May 5, 2016
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#1307
Biotk wrote:
Raspberry_Yoghurt wrote:

Everybody here has things they don't know about. But most people are aware of when you don't know much about something, so you try to learn from the people who do and, you don't just blurt out wild and stubborn claims that this and that is so and so like you do.

I disagree.  Most people are completely unaware of how ignorant they are on most topics.  They will admit that they are not experts on topic "x" but they still feel that the position they were naturally drawn to must be the correct one.  Most people only try to learn from people who are espousing a position that they already agree with.  Most people do blurt out wild and stubborn claims about various topics.  

Denying evolution in the 21st century is sad, but most people deny all kinds of strongly supported science, strongly hold views which are supported by weak evidence and contradicted by stronger evidence, and try to rationalize positions that they came to based on feeling or ideology.

Hm maybe you are right.

Education is supposed to counteract that, which I guess is a human tendency. It just doesn't seem to be working anymore.

20 yeard down the road maybe Americans will start using voodoo or prayer instead of modern medicine or something? It's going to be a real big problem if they get from 50% to become a majority.

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wraithleader
May 5, 2016
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#1308

I agree with your first annaligy; Evryone is an idiot

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Senior-Lazarus_Long
May 5, 2016
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#1309

 

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wraithleader
May 5, 2016
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#1310
raspberry yogurt, what week evidence and contradictions?
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Raspberry_Yoghurt
May 5, 2016
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#1311
wraithleader wrote:
raspberry yogurt, what week evidence and contradictions?

Biotk wrote that bit, not me.

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wraithleader
May 5, 2016
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#1312

oops, sorry

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wraithleader
May 5, 2016
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#1313
but do you agree with him? and if so, why?
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Elroch
May 5, 2016
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#1314
alex-rodriguez wrote:

The word "kind". Science deniers love that word. Biologists never use it. Of course they don't it destroys evolution.

Amazing. Just amazing. The brain damage is worse than I thought possible.

I suppose it must be a magic word, like "abracadabra", that makes entire sciences vanish into thin air when a master conjuror utters it.

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pawnkeeper
May 5, 2016
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#1315
Raspberry_Yoghurt wrote:

Well it's not a problem to be uneducted.

But it is a problem being uenducated plus stubborn and making false claims about thinks you don't understand anything about.

Everybody here has things they don't know about. But most people are aware of when you don't know much about something, so you try to learn from the people who do and, you don't just blurt out wild and stubborn claims that this and that is so and so like you do. You are the one making wild claims about evolution that is based only on theory. Instead of putting down God why don't you try getting to know Him. Oh, I forgot you can't know Him, because you are not spiritual.

 

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Elroch
May 5, 2016
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#1316

Watch the really excellent video in #1365.

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pawnkeeper
May 5, 2016
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#1317
Elroch wrote:
alex-rodriguez wrote:

The word "kind". Science deniers love that word. Biologists never use it. Of course they don't it destroys evolution.

Amazing. Just amazing. The brain damage is worse than I thought possible. It is amazing, you reject the truth.

I suppose it must be a magic word, like "abracadabra", that makes entire sciences vanish into thin air when a master conjuror utters it.

 

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Raspberry_Yoghurt
May 5, 2016
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#1318
pawnkeeper wrote:
Raspberry_Yoghurt wrote:

Well it's not a problem to be uneducted.

But it is a problem being uenducated plus stubborn and making false claims about thinks you don't understand anything about.

Everybody here has things they don't know about. But most people are aware of when you don't know much about something, so you try to learn from the people who do and, you don't just blurt out wild and stubborn claims that this and that is so and so like you do. You are the one making wild claims about evolution that is based only on theory. Instead of putting down God why don't you try getting to know Him. Oh, I forgot you can't know Him, because you are not spiritual.

 

No it is based on a ton of evidence.

You don't know the evidence. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It means you are ignorant.

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Elroch
May 5, 2016
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#1319

pawnkeeper, watch the video in #1365 before insulting this forum any more with your indolence.

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pawnkeeper
May 5, 2016
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#1320
Raspberry_Yoghurt wrote:

Facts lol. You don't have the slightest clue what evolution theory is. Zero, none.

You think "plants" would disappear because "humans" evolved from plants. I am not sure that is true, but anyway - why on earth would plants disappear because humans evolved from plants? You said it, Plants evolve , they are no longer plants.

Evolution happens if for instance a part of the population is isolated from the rest of is. For instance because a strat is formed and the organisms can't get over it. Then the isolated organisms can change into another direction and end up being a new species. 

This doesn't mean that the population they came from magically disappear :)