Tom
People think they are special. Can control the universe and rise above nature .
Nature is what matters. There is no supernatural. There is no I . All there is is biology and chemistry .
But you know it's hard to accept.
We'll never understand everything but we can accept our insignificance
I'm sorry I haven't been able to read or post much but I'll catch up.
Does it mean you love lasagne with lots of ketchup?
Bon Soir and thanks for the posts .
For me I would say peace leads to understanding . When we drop the fretting we realise how truly insignificant we are .
I love the angle though . I certainly have my doubts that society would improve if every one accepted as I have free will is an illusion .
I wonder .
tomtrytostay wrote:
My daughter said something tonight I wanted to talk about if I manage the time. She said you are like these religious people you talk about. You think you know everything. My daughter is thirteen.
You have always spoke of your "son". You know the one practicing karate with sticks. Now suddenly it's a daughter who is part of your family. Come on tom, Which is it?
This city Paris ur visiting, what planet is it on? You believe in multiverses, but really tom, this is getting rediculas.
Tom.. I thought your statement, Re. 'Hero'/'narrative'/'Hitler'.. was bordering-on-the-brilliant!
Anyway, that just led me, to 'quoteinvestigator.com' .. where I copied the following.. {'btw' I arbitrarily stopped completing, the entire copy-and-paste}.. Too long!
Everyone Is Necessarily the Hero of His Own Life Story
John Barth? Apocryphal? Anonymous?
Dear Quote Investigator: I am trying to locate a statement made by the prominent metafictionalist author John Barth. The quotation was similar to the following:
Everyone is the hero of his own life story.
Do you know where this appeared?
Quote Investigator: John Barth did scribe a closely matching sentence in a short story titled “The Remobilization of Jacob Horner” published in Esquire magazine in 1958. The central character named Jacob Horner was a graduate student at Johns Hopkins University who suffered from bouts of paralysis caused by a malady he called “cosmopsis”. On occasion Horner experienced a disorienting cosmic viewpoint which seemed to render his actions purposeless, and he became temporarily immobile.
A physician that Horner met serendipitously had developed a variety of therapies to help individuals afflicted with psychologically induced paralysis. The doctor explained “Mythotherapy” with the following introductory words. Bold face has been added: 1
“In life,” he said, “there are no essentially major or minor characters. To that extent, all fiction and biography, and most historiography, is a lie. Everyone is necessarily the hero of his own life story.
The physician asserted that Horner’s paralysis occurred because he no longer perceived himself as a major or minor character within his own life story. To prevent this paralysis Horner must learn to assume a sharply defined mask or role and then dramatize the situation within which he was embedded.
Precursors of the quotation under examination were written in the 1800s as shown below.
Here are additional selected citations in chronological order.
In 1812 a treatise titled “Voyages and Travels in the Years 1809, 1810 and 1811: Containing Statistical, Commercial, and Miscellaneous Observations on Gibraltar, Sardinia, Sicily, Malta, Serigo, and Turkey” by John Galt was published. The author presented the following observation: 2
Every traveller is necessarily the hero of his own story, especially if he happens to travel alone. When he has the felicity of a companion the unavoidable egotism is obscured by the use of the social pronoun.
In 1832 a reviewer commenting on a magazine about natural history stated the following: 3
It should be recollected, also, that the author is necessarily the hero of his own tale, which is a disadvantage to some men when writing for the public, although it may add to the charm of the narrative, in the social circle.
In 1850 the popular author Charles Dickens released the now classic novel “David Copperfield”, and the initial sentences of the bildungsroman announced its central topic interrogatively. John Barth was well-read, and he was probably familiar with the following excerpt. Perhaps Barth constructed his adage, in part, to echo and respond to the narrative-conscious reflexive question posed by Dickens: 4
I AM BORN.
Whether I shall turn out to be the hero of my own life, or whether that station will be held by anybody else, these pages must show.
In 1920 an editorial discussed a recent criminal investigation in which a man accused of one murder confessed to seven murders. The piece speculated on the motives of the confessor, and suggested that he viewed himself as an aberrant form of hero: 5
Whatever we may say, whatever we may think we think, down at the bottom is the fundamental craving that each man must in some way satisfy—the craving to be the hero of his own story. And so, some of us die at the stake for a holy principle and others of us confess to seven murders and 1000 burglaries, and the rest of us find ways equally satisfactory, if less sensational, of making ourselves heroes in our own eyes.
In 1930 “The Journal of the National Education Association” printed an article about individualized instruction, and the author outlined a philosophical stance for this style of pedagogy: 6
Individualization is treating each pupil as the hero of his own life’s story. It means studying his environment as the setting which must have a bearing upon the development of the plot. His deficiencies appear as complicating forces to be overcome.
In 1958 John Barth’s short story “The Remobilization of Jacob Horner” was published as noted previously. That same year a novel by Barth titled “End of the Road” was released which included the tale as an episode within a larger narrative. The passage adjacent to the quotation was expanded to include a remark about the ill-fated character Polonius from William Shakespeare’s Hamlet: 7
He went on to explain Mythotherapy.
“In life,” he said, “there are no essentially major or minor characters. To that extent, all fiction and biography, and most historiography, are a lie. Everyone is necessarily the hero of his own life story. Hamlet could be told from Polonius’s point of view and called The Tragedy of Polonius, Lord Chamberlain of Denmark. He didn’t think he was a minor character in anything, I daresay.
Or suppose you’re an usher in a wedding. From the groom’s viewpoint he’s the major character; the others play supporting parts, even the bride. From your viewpoint, though, the wedding is a minor episode in the very interesting history of your life, and the bride and groom both are minor figures.
In 1983 an educator wrote an opinion piece in the “Cleveland Plain Dealer” of Ohio about his experiences working as a retail clerk in a bookstore. He felt invisible because sometimes acquaintances did not acknowledge him. To explain this behavior he invoked the words of Barth: 8
And then there’s what novelist John Barth explained with his term “mythotherapy.” “Everyone,” he said, “is necessarily the hero of his own life story.” To maintain our view of ourselves as heroes, as stars of our own movies, we must assign everyone else minor roles, especially those whose only perceivable function is to wait on us.
In conclusion, John Barth did compose a quotation about the centripetal narrative focus of life in 1958. Thematically similar quotations were in print by the 1800s.
Image Notes: Book cover from Wikimedia. Low resolution image for identification. Caped hero from OpenClips at Pixabay.
Update History: On May 30, 2014 the 1850 “David Copperfield” citation was added.
{many thanks to Professor Steve Newman of Temple University who pointed to the valuable “David Copperfield” citation and noted that Barth was almost certainly familiar with the lines of the excerpt. Newman suggested that Barth’s adage may have been influenced by these initial words from “David Copperfield”. Any errors are the responsibility of QI. Great thanks to Nathaniel Tan whose query caused QI to formulate this question and initiate this exploration}.
Notes:
the guy itude is a punk troll, funny, gloss over. RKiDZ is nice.
better avoid the world hitler here just writing, it derails in on second.
except to post sthg like how to be happy when Hitler did things etc ...? the answer is yes , how ?
Stolen Authenticity is interesting, ty lastpost, brilliant.
fB your friend , i'm not Firstpay, Fragan, Ocelot, just your friend.
And, a lazy man's 'Trophy' for 'FB'! ..{me being the 'lazy' one, in sending 'trophys'}. [ :
The following I found on the News page - Searchword - 'stress' ..{what I was feeling 25 min. ago! ..lol -True!}
https://inews.co.uk/explainers/iq/stressed-heres-best-advice-coping-science-offer/
I think I would wonder here without a comment from anyone but it's lovely to have some companions on my journey.
Md you are silly. I have two children. Count them. One, two.
One is a boy and one is a girl. One uses sticks at karate and the other doesn't.
My son has kicked me less during my time in Paris which is nice .
Paris is so sexy!
Beautiful flowers too.
I love Paris and Disney Land is absolutely wonderful.
ooops ! relapse
what hate !! a future friend, NiCk is back?? troll? ??
some tucent therapist in search for customers ???
Stolen : hint he is someone else !!! authenticity ??
any errors are the responsability of EQ,
Firs pay is worker's day.
Stolen part time useless, part time usefull, like NiCk.
Double personality : interesting or expandable ?
We'd like to know more. trad: on s'en fout de ce mec. 
------------Back to topic : where is Tom ?---
Paris is so sexy!
Beautiful flowers too.
I love Paris and Disney Land is absolutely wonderful.
Hi friend, today don't take sunbathwith wife on the balcony like in April. First pay is the worker's day.
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