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There is a way in which music can make a difference to your IQ, though. Unfortunately it requires a bit more effort than putting on a CD. Learning to play a musical instrument can have a beneficial effect on your brain. Jessica Grahn, a cognitive scientist at Western University in London, Ontario says that a year of piano lessons, combined with regular practice can increase IQ by as much as three points.

So listening to Mozart won’t do you or your children any harm and could be the start of a life-long love of classical music. But unless you and your family have some urgent imaginary origami to do, the chances are that sticking on a sonata is not going to make you better at anything

 

interesting though. 

tomtrytostay
gerberk wrote:

Mozart and Bach are used in Music therapy and for young children to develop the brain.

If I had a kid i would do the same.Bach is mathematical Mozart is more playful.

interesting . I used to view Mozart as having no peer, but lately Beethoven is astounding me. I wonder if there is a genius of geninuses. An ultimate composer. An Einstein. 

tomtrytostay

hi buddy I love everyone I do. 

I'm thinking then I've demonstrated that the love of music isn't about a soul as such. A self. 

It's interesting to me that most non religious people have this idea of a soul just as much as the religious people do. The only difference is the non religious people believe this soul was created naturally and ends when the body dies. The rest is the same though with both set of beliefs. 

tomtrytostay

The brain scans highlighted the nucleus accumbens, often referred to as the brain’s ‘pleasure center’, a deep region of the brain that connects to dopamine neurons and is activated during eating, gambling and sex. It turns out that connections between the nucleus accumbens and several other brain areas could predict how much a participant was willing to spend on a given song. Those areas included the amygdala, which is involved in processing emotion, the hippocampus, which is important for learning and memory, and the ventromedial prefrontal cortex, which is involved in decision-making.

 

The data are “compelling,” especially because the study objectively quantified the participants’ preferences, notes Thalia Wheatley, a psychology professor at Dartmouth College who has studied links between music, motion and emotion. The emphasis on connectivity between regions, rather than any particular region by itself, is also intriguing, she says. “Cortical activity alone does not predict bid value. Hooking up the temporal and evaluative processing in the cortex with the (more primitive) reward areas appears to be the key.”

 

right there.
MEXIMARTINI

NOPE.  the soul keeps on.  If you are going with differences between religious and non religious. 

But Tom, do you realize you are going in circles?

tomtrytostay

as far as understanding nature goes there are more questions than answers but people that doesn't mean there isn't a natural explanation for everything. 

Why we are here. Why we think, feel and behave as we do. All these questions have a natural explanation in response. 

tomtrytostay

loved the photo Mexi. Thank you. 

No buddy I'm really not.

No God. No free will. No I. No love. Only evolution. I've just been soothing my curiosity about what evolution is. I have done just there with music. I didn't absolutely understand why naturally we enjoy music but I certainly saw that there was a natural explanation for it. I've seen that too with love and posted various articles about it but I'd like to look into that a little more. 

After all I know I love the people in my life because they are beautiful. It's funny though but I know I love music too at times because it's beautiful too. 

Though I know everything to be natural I don't really get how love works and I'm curious about that. I want to look further. 

I know oxytocin is relevant though. 

But why these chemicals are released?

My beautiful wife, Beethoven, I know how I love them. Why do I love them? 

It's beauty I guess. 

So what is beauty? 

I know you see God in your beauty Mexi. I get that. So you love God. 

Let me give you an idea about what I think you see.

tomtrytostay

God.

Loves everybody. Just everybody. Unconditionally. 

Is willing to sacrifice anything and everything for those he loves whether they deserve it or not. 

What you are talking about it unconditional and absolute love. Who wouldn't love that?

So that's beauty right there. 

I have a feeling Mexi that what we love is love. 

We love those that we understand to be loving. Love is beautiful and causes love to happen. 

Almost contagiously like a cold. 

Anyway enough from me today. 

tomtrytostay

I have a feeling Mexi that what we love is love. 

thinking about it the music I love is loving in nature. Such as Beethoven's romance.

Mozart gets me high but I love Beethoven. 

I'll show you what I mean. 

Stolen_Authenticity

Too bad, that 'tom' isn't one to click-on-'links'.. As the following, would show, that he's partially right! .. Ie. 'Free will'..{or what there is of it}; Gives most indications, of being rather restricted! ..But, the 'Force' that set that paradigm, {'paira-dine' -> phonetic}, in motion, was 'God'.. Heavens!

"25 Bible prophecies, that have already been fulfilled" ..{linked}.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnhcZ5sK9tU

tomtrytostay

tomtrytostay

SA. Free will is totally false. It's just the authors have only realised that part of what we hold to be free will isn't. 

I bet you can't produce a more beautiful religious image than Mexi. I bet you!

Rockotokko

If evolution explains most, then probably we like music because at a certain moment and by accident some people liked music and they were more attractive to women and were also more virile. The same with neurotransmitters. Humans are overly positive because the pesimists can not survive on this planet. So only the crazy ones that were not hindered by existential worries survived because they were better hunters, lovers, singers and livers. I only know that we know nothing and survive anyway.

tomtrytostay

Rocko all can be explained by evolution. 

It's just we human beings are self important and think  because we don't know that to be the case it can't be.

Interesting thoughts. Well we are a pattern you know. Some are intelligent, some particularly loving, some have an environment that nurtures them. All a pattern. Whether you know a lot or not doesn't matter really.

You have to know the basics though. I mean I know that I have to spend time with my wife if I want her to stay. So I know what I need to know. 

In terms of relating to friends something is missing. I've never really had a friend and I've come to accept I never will have. The pattern is wrong for me.

tomtrytostay
Itude wrote:

Ever heard of tough love tommy ?

I find we naturally love. I also find this is true for everyone. All are welcome here.

Joseph-S

  

   ↑ That would be tom, if he believed in a higher power and was even conscious of the utter drivel that he posts.

Rockotokko

My conclusion is that out of all forms of existence, the human form is the most attractive ( flying like a bird must be great also, but i would not want to be a mushroom, a stone or a bee or a tree..) and so i wonder where my luck comes from..

tomtrytostay
Yeah but maybe you're wrong . I think a lapwing would be amazing . How wonderful to actually be able to fly .

Thanks Joseph !
wraithleader
tomtrytostay wrote:
Itude wrote:

Ever heard of tough love tommy ?

I find we naturally love. I also find this is true for everyone. All are welcome here.

  not all natrualy love. in order to love some one(I find) that first we need to trust them. trust is hard and anything but natural.

tomtrytostay
Wow what an interesting post.

I find trust so important too. And you're right it doesn't come easy and is special.

I don't think though trust is something we have to engineer .

All we can do is be ourselves and eventually perhaps someone will see we mean well .

Fascinating post though .

Don't you think we trust someone when we recognise they naturally love?