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Nikprit stop trolling my thread or I'll block you .

Not really . All and everyone say what you want when you want .
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomism

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After extensive investigation by Det.Kujan in regard to SUSPECT 11 Tomtrytogo in the case of computer hacking Mr Trytogo has been cleared of all charges. 

His first reaction was this: 

Followed by this:

Case is now closed for Suspect 11

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bunicula a écrit :

What if Tom was the man, the ruler of the universe?

oooops! i missed that.    Tom is the man, he said that to me as tkbunny on my thread, sort of froid useless robot, nod ven a troll.  Gloss over.  Tkbunny was fird, as expandable.

 if your wife calls for you to end this thread because of some silly nonsense about making promises, I beg you to strangle her. Birds too, it was HILARIOUS !!!!!!

What are we ? all thomists ! Nikprit is , too. Unicorn is pain, thomism is way thigs are. 

Bravo Nik, Thom, all u do is great , We'd like to know more (trad. Pete s'en fout, 

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yes you can choose to believe, tom, where lies your difficulty ? do you feel people can only be forced to believe, or born with beliefs implanted by the universe ?

Einstein didnt believe in free will, he didn't say it was his experience. he wanted a certain angle, so he chose freely to not believe in free will, and took another scientists viewpoint.

A viewpoint is a viewpoint, not a fact. Anyway, it can mean whatever you want it to mean as Einstein decided.

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my belief is that our beliefs come as an amalgamation of our expereince. 

For example you have sunk in water and now you expect things sink in water. 

My friend you are contradicting me. Okay tell me truthfully. Choose to beleive in God then not to believe in God. 

Did you manage it? 

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it's a nice point you make though. 

We do interpret our beliefs to suit ourselves. 

I recall Al Gore saying a man wouldn't believe something that would make him unemployed. Maybe sometimes we don't want to see the truth. 

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thank you Nik and Fb. Loved those images. Wow my avatar is gorgeous. 

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FRENCHBASHER wrote:

Metaphysics[edit]

Thomas says that the fundamental axioms of ontology are the principle of non-contradiction and the principle of causality. Therefore, any being that does not contradict these two laws could theoretically exist,[8] even if said being were incorporeal.[9]

someone tell me what this means please

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Hi Don .

It's interesting right how belief is partly about emotion.
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Thomas is saying we can't exist unless we are separate from causality? I said that !!!!
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What in the world is the principle of non contradiction?

I guess it means that a soul could exist if that doesn't contradict anything .

Well it contradicts causality for one . If all we are is part of a chain of cause and effect how can we exist at all?

Also where is this soul? This self ?

All there are is cells and chemicals no?
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Aw I'm sorry Don 😢.

I'm happy . I hope you are too .
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I sure am emotional . I cry at children's movies .
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that's cos you believe anything that's not true tom, the film thing.

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about the belief in god tom, what do you mean by god ? do you know the purpose of belief and what it is used for ? did you know that your inner experiences are determined by beliefs ?

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That's interesting . It's true I just watch the world .

But I found that actually the scientists weren't saying my experience was wrong in finding there is no free will . They are saying I'm right
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can you give a link ? and how do scientists measure free will to quantify it ?

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Okay well you either believe in God or you don't . I don't . Can I choose to believe in God ? No .

Also think of someone you love , now choose not to love them .

Yeah right .
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No Don that's me !