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https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/second-place-huge-victory-for-donald-j-trump-in-iowa?page=12

I thought this was a no-no.

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maybe only if roach complains...

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It looks like some magic transpired and the page has been compressed.

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Any time you want to make a thread disappear, bring up Roach. Laughing

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Like Beetlejuice, say it three times...

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DrSpudnik wrote:

It looks like some magic transpired and the page has been compressed.

magic, ha! ironic, the title of this thread, because staff members are all individuals that have their own preferences. there is a broken system at cc between staff-one member will want to lock or delete, others may not. while i understand there are subjective things, the "rules" are not hard and fast. except that any staff member can do whatever they wish.

the thread mentioned in the first post is against tos, yet it has lived on. fine, i say, but, when others are locked or deleted, you, staff, are sending mixed messages.

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Off-topic has more allowances than the other forums. So, there is nothing against the TOS in the subject matter,  though I guess it is possible some of the content in the topic might be.

 

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     I can shed some light on that. The OP--Paradise_Found was originaly posting in this thread;   https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/trump-or-not-to-trump. The OP to the above link in Mackytom. Paradise was just posting spam and nonsence. Macky asked, then warned, then told Paradise to stop. When he didn't, Paradise was blocked and started his own thread to praise everything Trump. There's even a group on this site for Trump, which raised my eyebrows.https://www.chess.com/groups/view/donald-trump-fan-club Can we chop up the site into 5 or 6 political nominees?    

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martin, your responses have always been on point, but, this one is not.

the whole topic is political, which is supposed to be a no-no outside of od. i only bring this up because i've had two topics deleted where it was a type of open discussion. about anything. in off-topic.

as of a few years ago, off-topic was presented as unmoderated. great! i love it! yet, threads are deleted seemingly on a whim of whichever staff member doesn't like them.

while tos are spelled out clearly, there is zero consensus among staff as to what is allowed.

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    Al, if your talking about your "Let's Share" thread, I agree. It seemed relatively harmless enough, but your last one turned into a "lets gang up on Jamie D" thread.

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here's the difference, ronnie. when it comes to the site, they have paramaters. they appear to be spelled out, but staff members make the call.

as far as "ganging up" on jamie, she posted frequently.

stirring the pot is fine with me. one of my issues with her is that she blocks anyone that disagrees. she also complains to staff of threads that she doesn't like.

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AlCzervik wrote:

martin, your responses have always been on point, but, this one is not.

the whole topic is political, which is supposed to be a no-no outside of od. i only bring this up because i've had two topics deleted where it was a type of open discussion. about anything. in off-topic.

as of a few years ago, off-topic was presented as unmoderated. great! i love it! yet, threads are deleted seemingly on a whim of whichever staff member doesn't like them.

while tos are spelled out clearly, there is zero consensus among staff as to what is allowed.

 

Nope, I'm still on point, as you say. 

 

Read post 2 in the following topic. 

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/chesscom-posting-rules

 

I won't try to claim that some MODs or staff are unaware of the allowances in off-topic or are under the impression the old rules still apply.  I also won't say that they don't make mistakes. It is possible something else in the topic was the the reason for deletion too.

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AlCzervik wrote:

here's the difference, ronnie. when it comes to the site, they have paramaters. they appear to be spelled out, but staff members make the call.

as far as "ganging up" on jamie, she posted frequently.

stirring the pot is fine with me. one of my issues with her is that she blocks anyone that disagrees. she also complains to staff of threads that she doesn't like.

I did not notice your sharing #2 topic until two weeks after you called me out.  I posted why I have people on block - merely disagreeing was not one.  As soon as I posted there, you started the gang rape along with the Spudnik cabal.

Tell you what, don't call me out in your topics and I won't enter them or have a reason to report them.

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Wolfbird wrote:

Any time you want to make a thread disappear, bring up Roach.

See what I mean, Al?

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JamieDelarosa wrote:
AlCzervik wrote:

here's the difference, ronnie. when it comes to the site, they have paramaters. they appear to be spelled out, but staff members make the call.

as far as "ganging up" on jamie, she posted frequently.

stirring the pot is fine with me. one of my issues with her is that she blocks anyone that disagrees. she also complains to staff of threads that she doesn't like.

I did not notice your sharing #2 topic until two weeks after you called me out.  I posted why I have people on block - merely disagreeing was not one.  As soon as I posted there, you started the gang rape along with the Spudnik cabal.

Tell you what, don't call me out in yout topics and I won't enterthem or have a reason to report them.

*sigh*

you always have the option of not responding. or even reading.

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Martin_Stahl wrote:
AlCzervik wrote:

martin, your responses have always been on point, but, this one is not.

the whole topic is political, which is supposed to be a no-no outside of od. i only bring this up because i've had two topics deleted where it was a type of open discussion. about anything. in off-topic.

as of a few years ago, off-topic was presented as unmoderated. great! i love it! yet, threads are deleted seemingly on a whim of whichever staff member doesn't like them.

while tos are spelled out clearly, there is zero consensus among staff as to what is allowed.

 

Nope, I'm still on point, as you say. 

 

Read post 2 in the following topic. 

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/chesscom-posting-rules

 

I won't try to claim that some MODs or staff are unaware of the allowances in off-topic or are under the impression the old rules still apply.  I also won't say that they don't make mistakes. It is possible something else in the topic was the the reason for deletion too.

it is possible that there were posts that i didn't see that caused the deletion. but, instead of the thread locked, it's gone and nobody knows why.

however...i will refer you to post 1 in the thread you cite. erik states clearly that political discission is limited to od. so, yeah, you're not on point. the thread doc mentions is pure politics.

again, personally i think people should be able to write whatever they want. but it's not my call.

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Post 1 had the old rules. Post 2, changed the rules after 5 years and specifically states Off-Topic will be lightly moderated. He only calls out three things that will not be tolerated there and politics isn't one of them. 

 

Off-Topic isn't being considered one of the main public forums in that post. Still on point 

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if i assume you are correct, can you explain why two of my threads were deleted and the thread doc cites is still running?

when the first sharing thread was deleted, i pm'd staff, and received no explanation.

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JamieDelarosa wrote

I did not notice your sharing #2 topic until two weeks after you called me out.  I posted why I have people on block - merely disagreeing was not one.  As soon as I posted there, you started the gang rape along with the Spudnik cabal.

Tell you what, don't call me out in yout topics and I won't enterthem or have a reason to report them.

interesting take. i simply stated my disdain for you. you took it to heart and responded. there is the difference. you write bile about me, spud, et al, but you have many of us blocked.

i, on the other hand, allow you to post whatever you want.

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JamieDelarosa wrote:
Wolfbird wrote:

Any time you want to make a thread disappear, bring up Roach.

See what I mean, Al?  Help your rabid dogs on a leach.

i don't control others thoughts. there are many here that don't like you.

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