What is the opposite of chess?

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What do you believe is the most antithetical thing to chess?

Pre_VizsIa

Post-modern art?

Dodger111

Rap/Hip-Hop "music"

kayak21

I give in. What's the answer?  Undecided

Knightly_News
kayak21 wrote:

I give in. What's the answer?  

I have always believed that things can have many opposites in many ways.  For example, the opposite of a ping pong ball is non-existence, because the ping-pong ball exists, and the opposite is space because the ping pong ball has mass, and the opposite is anything 180 degress from it around a common center, and the opposite of a ping pong ball is sentient beings, because a ping pong ball is not sentient, and the opposite of a ping pong ball is a paddle, espescially if the player is any good, etc... Perhaps not the best examples.

U_N_I_C_R_O_N
reflectivist wrote:

What do you believe is the most antithetical thing to chess?

 

The Chinese game of "GO" is close to fitting that definition.  The occupation of as much space with the least amount of pieces while chess is the control of the board while retaining the most of your pieces necessary to achieve victory.

sapientdust

It's not at all the opposite of chess, but this gave me what I think is an interesting idea for a chess variant: Inverse Chess.

It is the game of chess played as if time were flowing backwards. It starts with an endgame position, and the legal moves are the inverse of the normal moves. You can't capture a piece, but you can uncapture a piece by moving your piece away from a square and putting one of the opponent's pieces back on the board in the now vacated square. You can walk into check too, of course, and a piece on the eighth rank can unpromote by taking itself off the board, becoming a pawn, and then either moving back to the 7th rank or uncapturing an opponent's piece on the eight rank.

The winner is the first person to get all of their pieces and pawns back to their starting square.

x-5058622868

Maybe Russian Roulette? It's not a game, and it's pure luck.

Edit: I guess it could be argued whether or not it's a game. 

Macotif
sapientdust wrote:

It's not at all the opposite of chess, but this gave me what I think is an interesting idea for a chess variant: Inverse Chess.

It is the game of chess played as if time were flowing backwards. It starts with an endgame position, and the legal moves are the inverse of the normal moves. You can't capture a piece, but you can uncapture a piece by moving your piece away from a square and putting one of the opponent's pieces back on the board in the now vacated square. You can walk into check too, of course, and a piece on the eighth rank can unpromote by taking itself off the board, becoming a pawn, and then either moving back to the 7th rank or uncapturing an opponent's piece on the eight rank.

The winner is the first person to get all of their pieces and pawns back to their starting square.


Damn, I so want to play this game!

Knightly_News
Macotif wrote:
sapientdust wrote:

It's not at all the opposite of chess, but this gave me what I think is an interesting idea for a chess variant: Inverse Chess.

It is the game of chess played as if time were flowing backwards. It starts with an endgame position, and the legal moves are the inverse of the normal moves. You can't capture a piece, but you can uncapture a piece by moving your piece away from a square and putting one of the opponent's pieces back on the board in the now vacated square. You can walk into check too, of course, and a piece on the eighth rank can unpromote by taking itself off the board, becoming a pawn, and then either moving back to the 7th rank or uncapturing an opponent's piece on the eight rank.

The winner is the first person to get all of their pieces and pawns back to their starting square.


Damn, I so want to play this game!

Unfortunately, it is completely determinate: Black will always win.

sapientdust
reflectivist wrote:

Unfortunately, it is completely determinate: Black will always win.

How so? You might be right. I haven't thought about it carefully, but I don't immediately see why this should be the case.

They don't play an actual game in reverse (in which case of course White would be one half-move behind Black in every game). They play possible backward moves that could have been played in a hypothetical game (which may or may not have actually happened).

The only way it seems to me it could have an obvious outcome in every game would be if there were a simple plan that each player could carry out in order to finish in the theoretically minimum number of moves, but I think there is enough flexibility and room for strategy that no such simple plan will exist. For example, I can choose to uncapture pieces in ways that make it more difficult for my opponent to maneuver, and ways that make it easier for me to maneuver.

I do think there are some problems however, and am thinking about various sets of rules that might make this a playable idea.