if you say -6 and -8 is basically no difference then -5 and -8 is also insignificant
WHY DO YOU GET SO MANY OR LOSE SO MANY RATING POINTS
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Oct 3, 2021
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#44
HEDGIECHESS wrote:
nklristic wrote:
HEDGIECHESS wrote:
aviation18 wrote:
HEDGIECHESS wrote:
100+ rating and i lost BUT LOST 6 RATING POINTS...... 100+ RATING AND THATS LIKE THE SAME AS -8 RATING POINTS
6 and 8 are different.
The widely accepted definition is-if you lose, you lose rating. If you win you win rating. When I won against someone rated 200+ my rating, I only got +6 rating.
Now?
I BEAT FM 1RANDOM ON BULLET AND HE WAS RATED 2600 AND I WAS 1100 AND I ONLY GOT 10 RATING POINTS AND HE LOST LIKE 5
That is not correct.
I am looking at those games now. First of all he has beaten you a few times. He gained 0 points because the rating difference is too great, you've lost 0 points as well.
After first loss he went from 2634 to 2618, so he lost 16 points. You went from 1168 to 1184, so you've gained 16 points. You have beaten him twice after that first win and both times you've gained 16 points and he lost 16 points.
So, as you can see, when the opponents are roughly equal and have played enough games, both will stand to gain or lose 8 points. As the gap gets bigger, points gained and lost will change until at certain point higher rated player will gain 0 for a win and can lose 16 in case of a loss. I am not sure if you can gain/lose more than 16 if you have played enough games, but probably not.
HES LIKE 2500 RATING MORE THAN ME I SHOULD GET AT LEAST 200!
The only time you can get 200 here is when you've played just a few games and you practically have a provisional rating. When you've played enough games, your playing strength is evaluated accurately enough, so you do not gain that many points, no matter who do you beat.
But you still win more when you beat higher rated opponent, and lose less when you lose.
Oct 3, 2021
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#45
The actual math behind it can be found here:
https://metinmediamath.wordpress.com/2013/11/27/how-to-calculate-the-elo-rating-including-example/
I'm guessing they adjust the K-factor based on how many games you've played.
Oct 3, 2021
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#46
HEDGIECHESS wrote:
HES LIKE 2500 RATING MORE THAN ME I SHOULD GET AT LEAST 200!
The rating system isn't reward based or a trophy or something. Mathematically it has a very specific purpose, and that is to predict your future results based on your past results.
For example, if you beat a 2600 player in one game, then it would be irrational to predict you will always beat 2600 players (or to assume you're at least 2200 or 1800 or 1500 etc).
It's more intuitive if you think of it as taking the average of your last 100 games, and then whatever rating it gives you for that, if your last 10-20 games were even better, you'll end up a little higher, and if your last 10-20 were worse, then you'll end up a little lower.
The rating system works one game at a time, but looking at it from a game-to-game perspective doesn't give you a good feel for it.
ChesswithNickolay wrote:
I am guessing you are 6?
you mean im 6 years old?
Are there people on this thread don’t know what PHD or masters degree in math is?
I mean, don’t even comment on the stats then.
I have a minor in math (computer science). I am guessing this is more math than you Hedgie.
Someone look up Dunning-Kruger.
I mean, don’t even comment on the stats then.
I have a minor in math (computer science). I am guessing this is more math than you Hedgie.
Someone look up Dunning-Kruger.
Oct 3, 2021
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#49
losing 8 points is normal when they are within 20 points. once they are higher or lower than that it changes. if someone is 100 higher you usually gain 10 if you win and lose about 6 If you lose
Oct 3, 2021
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#50
Toad1258 wrote:
losing 8 points is normal when they are within 20 points. once they are higher or lower than that it changes. if someone is 100 higher you usually gain 10 if you win and lose about 6 If you lose
If your RD is high, then yeah (meaning you play often).
Otherwise it could be 10 points for beating someone equal to you. It just depends.
Guys, this is funny, but he’s still either trolling or an idiot. Chillax hedgiechess.
Oct 3, 2021
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#52
HEDGIECHESS wrote:
How am i supposed to LOSE 8 RATING POINTS WHEN 5 DIFFERENCE?
Dude that's totally normal, once someone was like 20 rating higher than me and I lost 8 rating
Oct 3, 2021
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#53
CYGinz21 wrote:
We’re saying that chess.com is fine, just read the support article and stop trolling
Agreed
Oct 4, 2021
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#54
then what if the opponent was 1073 then if you lose 11 points you complain for that because you can't complain of 8
Oct 4, 2021
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#55
HEDGIECHESS wrote:
Like i played a game and i was 1065 and the opponemnt 1070... i lost 8 rating points and he gained 8 rating points??????
thats normal
are you freaking kiddding me
HEDGIECHESS wrote:
Like i played a game and i was 1065 and the opponemnt 1070... i lost 8 rating points and he gained 8 rating points??????
It's just eight, if you had just joined you would lose around 180
aviation18 wrote:
HEDGIECHESS wrote:
aviation18 wrote:
HEDGIECHESS wrote:
100+ rating and i lost BUT LOST 6 RATING POINTS...... 100+ RATING AND THATS LIKE THE SAME AS -8 RATING POINTS
6 and 8 are different.
The widely accepted definition is-if you lose, you lose rating. If you win you win rating. When I won against someone rated 200+ my rating, I only got +6 rating.
Now?
I BEAT FM 1RANDOM ON BULLET AND HE WAS RATED 2600 AND I WAS 1100 AND I ONLY GOT 10 RATING POINTS AND HE LOST LIKE 5
Kinda like what happened when I beat CM @Latigre. Did you check out the support article?
Hedgiechess, this will really help you understand:
I SAW YOUR BLOG AND THE RATING FOR CM LATIGRE WAS 1500 IN 3+ FOR ME IN BULLET THE FM 1RANDOM WAS 2600..... THATS MORE THAN THE CM!
ChesswithNickolay wrote:
HEDGIECHESS wrote:
ChesswithNickolay wrote:
I am guessing you are 6?
you mean im 6 years old?
Yeah definetley or 8
no and READ THE TITLE OF THE FORUM
Still having your meltdown after well written explanations. Some people
Mods watch all of the games as they are played and decide on how many points a player will gain or lose. They're supposed to use a formula given to them by the admin. but some of them just go off the cuff.
so they can (the mods) give the person -100 when hes playing a CM? or something like that?
Lol… @Mr-Mudd is joking.