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Checkers4Me wrote: calvinhobbesliker wrote: invision is always possible, but it didn't happen. actually, we threw jap-americans in internment camps because we thought they were going to help japs invade west coast

 I understand, but we were not safe from invasion. safe from invasion is different than not being invaded. I believe there were plans to invade the US. by the Germans.


can you give me a link to this? i can't find it on the web


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calvinhobbesliker wrote: Checkers4Me wrote: calvinhobbesliker wrote: invision is always possible, but it didn't happen. actually, we threw jap-americans in internment camps because we thought they were going to help japs invade west coast

 I understand, but we were not safe from invasion. safe from invasion is different than not being invaded. I believe there were plans to invade the US. by the Germans.


can you give me a link to this? i can't find it on the web


 You won't find it. There were never any formal plans but Hitler and his cronies did fantasize about how Japan and Germany would divide the USA once the USSR had been defeated. 


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how do you know this if it was just a fantacy?
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calvinhobbesliker wrote: how do you know this if it was just a fantacy?

 The diaries of those close to Hitler mention it.


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i see. good thing that never happenned. if they defeated russia, they would link with japan .
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pcfilho wrote: Brazil had a little participation, helping to defeat the Nazis...

apparently, brazil was the only country in latin america to send troops to europe


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On the flags topic...

The states of the US are essentially provinces, while the countries of Great Britain are essentially colonies. The process of giving them sports team started whn the Brits wanted to play international football, but couldn't find anyone to play with. So they gave Scotand and Wales their own football team. This eventually spread out into other sports. Their flags are also important in the Commonwealth Games where it must have been very dull seeing the Union Jack win everything.


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calvinhobbesliker wrote: pcfilho wrote: Brazil had a little participation, helping to defeat the Nazis...

apparently, brazil was the only country in latin america to send troops to europe


That doesn't mean Brazil was anti-Fascist. In fact, the existing government in Brazil at the time was Fascist and they had flourishing trade with the Nazis. When war broke out, they tried to posture themselves in an ambiguous way, pitting both sides against each other, trying to get the best deal. Uncle Sam made trading with Germany impossible, and launched a diplomatic offensive, and won through in the end.


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Brazil was under the dictatorship of Getúlio Vargas and maintained its neutrality until the beginning of 1942. After several German submarine attacks against Brazilian ships between February and August that year in the Atlantic Ocean Brazil sided with the Allies declaring war against Germany and Italy on August, 22 1942. Brazilian naval forces helped to patrol the South and Central Atlantic combating the German's U-boats. Brazil hosted, in the Northeast of the country, at Natal, the largest United States air base outside its own territory, and, at Recife, the U.S. Fourth Fleet. This air base gave support to the North Africa campaign. In 1944 Brazil sent the 25,000-soldier Brazilian Expeditionary Force (FEB) to fight in Europe, the only Latin American nation to send troops to Europe. This force joined the U.S. Fifth Army under General Mark Wayne Clark's command and participated in the Italian campaign until the end of war. Brazil sent two Air Force Groups, one of them a Fighter Group (the 1º GAVCA, or 1st Air Group, nicknamed 'Senta a Pua', which means 'Feel the Spur'), also based in Italy.

 

this is what i found on wikipedia "participants in world war 2" under brazil.


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after pearl harbor, for some reason, all the latin american countries joined the allies. except for belize, which was already with the allies
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I think that was something to do with the formation of the United Nations. To be in the new club you had to be part of the allies so a large number of nations declared war on Germany and Japan but did not necessarily participate actively.
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^Yep.

 Hence, how so many countries "participated" in WW2.


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participating actively can include not trading with axis powers. they don't have to send troops
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calvinhobbesliker wrote: after pearl harbor, for some reason, all the latin american countries joined the allies. except for belize, which was already with the allies

Belize was not an independent nation until the 1980's.  During WW II it was a British colony, known as British Honduras.


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so that's why it was in the war before pearl harbor. Panama was under america's control, and its canal helped us move ships between pacific and european theaters
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I assume this is for a paper at school. If so, you should get an A.
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actually, i had to do a speech on the enigma machine, in which i got 147 out of 150 points. There was also a test where i got 39 out of 30 points. the porpose of this forum is for everyone including me to learn more about the war that killed the most people.
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Got it.

Which world war do you think has had the most effect on current affairs? (I hope I asked this question correctly and hopefully i'm not breaking the rules of what to talk about here)


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In relation to the discussion of Indian participation in WWII and subsequent independence, this website http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3684288.stm contains further details.
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Well, there's only 2 official world wars, and the 2nd one was a result of the 1st, so I'd plump with WW1.
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