I get stuck in same rating(800). what should I do to improve myself?

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Fromper
Ashvapathi wrote:

 Others are giving you useful ideas(follow them) but there are some bad instructions which I want to correct:

1) play lots of blitz. Avoid long games.

 

This is terrible advice. You have to learn to do things well before you can learn to do them quickly. You have to train yourself to stop and look around at everything on the board on every turn, and you can't do that playing blitz. Play slow games, and concentrate on your thought process. Look at what your opponent is threatening. Look for his responses to your moves. Once you do this in enough slow games, it'll become instinctive to do, even in blitz.

IMKeto
Ashvapathi wrote:

 Others are giving you useful ideas(follow them) but there are some bad instructions which I want to correct:

1) play lots of blitz. Avoid long games.

2) learn a simple e4 e5 opening for white and black.

3) look out for opening traps like scholars mate, shilling mate, fool's mate, ...etc.

#1 The worst piece of advice you can give a beginner.  When you learned to read, did you learn to speed read, or start at the very basics sounding out letters, and words?

Ashvapathi
Fromper wrote:
Ashvapathi wrote:

 Others are giving you useful ideas(follow them) but there are some bad instructions which I want to correct:

1) play lots of blitz. Avoid long games.

 

This is terrible advice. You have to learn to do things well before you can learn to do them quickly. You have to train yourself to stop and look around at everything on the board on every turn, and you can't do that playing blitz. Play slow games, and concentrate on your thought process. Look at what your opponent is threatening. Look for his responses to your moves. Once you do this in enough slow games, it'll become instinctive to do, even in blitz.

Yes, and all that will be taught more quickly in quicker games. Blitz and bullet force you to sharpen your basic thought process including board vision, basic blunders, simple tactics, ...etc. Therefore, it is a perfect format for beginners. A beginner will make same a mistake regardless of how much time he will take to think. It is better for him to make more mistakes quickly by playing shorter formats. Then, he will learn from his own mistakes. That is called experience.

burakdemiroz
@Ashvapathi dude, i think i am not a that type learner. I’ve been playing daily games for a few days. A lot of people adviced me the same things. “Take time to think, study your opponents move, dont get blundered.. etc“ and i listened to them. Now i got 5 won, 1 lose. Also i joined a tournament(3 days per move) and I won my first game(my opponent is 1400). I think I am doing well so far. btw, thank you all for your advices. But @Ashvapathi your system doesn’t work, sorry.
Ashvapathi
burakdemiroz wrote:
@Ashvapathi dude, i think i am not a that type learner. I’ve been playing daily games for a few days. A lot of people adviced me the same things. “Take time to think, study your opponents move, dont get blundered.. etc“ and i listened to them. Now i got 5 won, 1 lose. Also i joined a tournament(3 days per move) and I won my first game(my opponent is 1400). I think I am doing well so far. btw, thank you all for your advices. But @Ashvapathi your system doesn’t work, sorry.

happy.png ok, whatever works for you. Good luck.

jambyvedar
Ashvapathi wrote:

 Others are giving you useful ideas(follow them) but there are some bad instructions which I want to correct:

1) play lots of blitz. Avoid long games.

2) learn a simple e4 e5 opening for white and black.

3) look out for opening traps like scholars mate, shilling mate, fool's mate, ...etc.

 

To quote somebody

 

 #1 The worst piece of advice you can give a beginner.  When you learned to read, did you learn to speed read, or start at the very basics sounding out letters, and words?

Statute

Take some time off from it it's called rest; in music the rests are the music; in lifting weights resting is just as important as the lifting itself; same thing with this mental exercise of Chess; you need to be away from it to let it simmer settle and take hold of your Consciousness that when you come back to it you'll be stronger

Statute

Keep sharpening your knife and it will blunt Too much playing makes one dull ... looking at you Karyjakin

RussBell

Study some good chess books....

Good Chess Books for Beginners and Beyond...

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/good-chess-books-for-beginners-and-beyond

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell

And play longer time controls...

https://www.chess.com/article/view/longer-time-controls-are-more-instructive

Barguest

Hey, that's not fair. I had the worst possible advice until Fromper and Jambyvedar got to vote.

Well, I guess it's like chess; you win some, you lose some.

Waredude
Play daily games. And practice a LOT
prusswan

At your level, just treat every position like a tactical puzzle. Then spend time on tactics training every day..until you become a master.

burakdemiroz

Puzzles and tactic trainers are really helped me a lot so far. I also started to play daily games, and joined a few daily tournaments. My current stat is 28/6/1. Thank you all for your advices!

Waredude

No problem hope we all helped!

Ashvapathi

On second thoughts, I really doubt if people understand how one progresses from one rating to the next. Because if they did, no one would be stuck at any rating. But, most people get stuck at some rating or the other and they don't know what to do to go the next level.

Statute

Find best move

Barguest

The best move is easy to find; it usually becomes apparent, immediately following the move you actually made.

burakdemiroz
Ashvapathi wrote:

On second thoughts, I really doubt if people understand how one progresses from one rating to the next. Because if they did, no one would be stuck at any rating. But, most people get stuck at some rating or the other and they don't know what to do to go the next level.

 

As a beginner, it is hard to find a way to get improved. That's why I asked you for help when I get stuck around 800. Now my rating is 1152 in daily games. But still I feel like I am not 1152, maybe I am around 1000. (1000 is also looks like good improvement for me) because I just played 35-40 games and I need to play more games with different opponents in my level to see that I deserve this rating. Maybe I played against weak opponents, maybe they couldn't focus on game and I won. I will play more daily games, puzzles and tactics. No bullet, no blitz. 


But if I get stuck around 1200 for a long time and couldn't find to way to improve, I am sure that your advices will be a bit different. We'll see happy.png

prusswan

Under master level (2000), you can just keep training tactics and calculation. Then learn some openings and endgames. After that, you need a personal trainer to identify your specific weaknesses and fix them.

captaintugwash

Study openings, particularly the more common ones. Once you're opening the first ten moves or so like a book, you'll find yourself in much better positions and will crush fellow 800s. As you find yourself in better postions, you'll get better at finding winning tactics. Good tactics flow from good positions.

 

Whoever said play plitz and not long games was talking out of their backside. The opposite is true. Play long games and analyse the position. At first this will be a little overwhelming, but over time you'll get better at analysing and more creative with the lines you analyse.