Pulpofeira wrote:
Bots don't seem to work against foul language in Spanish.
when i've pointed this out to staff the conversation stops.
A complete list of all the banned words on this website
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Dec 19, 2021
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#23
AlCzervik wrote:
Pulpofeira wrote:
Bots don't seem to work against foul language in Spanish.
when i've pointed this out to staff the conversation stops.
The bots work against anything in their word list. Language doesn't matter.
Dec 19, 2021
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#24
EscherehcsE wrote:
A list would be nice, but it'll never happen. People would just start using the number instead of the word. For example, "Go #3 yourself!"
This isn't such a bad idea. A person would have to work pretty hard to be offended by "go #3 yourself."
Dec 19, 2021
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#25
Martin_Stahl wrote:
AlCzervik wrote:
Pulpofeira wrote:
Bots don't seem to work against foul language in Spanish.
when i've pointed this out to staff the conversation stops.
The bots work against anything in their word list. Language doesn't matter.
And yet, this post remains intact:
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/flaggers?page=9#comment-65871169
But, when I attempted to quote the post, I was muted by the bot.
Martin_Stahl escribió:
AlCzervik wrote:
Pulpofeira wrote:
Bots don't seem to work against foul language in Spanish.
when i've pointed this out to staff the conversation stops.
The bots work against anything in their word list. Language doesn't matter.
It must be complicated for the bots, there's a word that means f****ng something in Mexico and kitchen helper in Spain.
Dec 19, 2021
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#28
Knowing the climate here. Posting a list of forbidden words would just allow those that want to break the rules, to circumvent what prevents them from breaking the rules.
Dec 19, 2021
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#29
I really don't understand the logic though . If the bot gets triggered due to the presence of some words in a quoted comment , how does the original comment not get flagged ?
Dec 19, 2021
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#30
Pulpofeira wrote:
Martin_Stahl escribió:
AlCzervik wrote:
Pulpofeira wrote:
Bots don't seem to work against foul language in Spanish.
when i've pointed this out to staff the conversation stops.
The bots work against anything in their word list. Language doesn't matter.
It must be complicated for the bots, there's a word that means f****ng something in Mexico and kitchen helper in Spain.
As far as I'm aware, it's a string matching algorithm. If the words are in the list, they get flagged.
Dec 19, 2021
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#31
Anonymous_Dragon wrote:
I really don't understand the logic though . If the bot gets triggered due to the presence of some words in a quoted comment , how does the original comment not get flagged ?
I think when that happens, it's actually a bug in the implementation.
Dec 19, 2021
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#32
theendgame3 wrote:
CannedAsparagus wrote:
geekonabike wrote:
CannedAsparagus wrote:
I'm not arguing that it shouldn't be an automated process, but it would only be fair to know when exactly you trespassed a rule ...
Imagine the police coming to your place, arresting you, but never even mention to you what exactly you did wrong. That's how I sometimes feel about this website's moderation policy.
Actually, that is how the police work in America. When you get to court, then they have to tell you what your accused of. But your point is still valid, How can it be a law/rule if it isn't spelled out somewhere?
Persecution methods in the US might be what inspired this American website to conduct justice. Maybe it's what they are used to?
say's a Hungarian
I'm German, though. Whether that makes matters better or worse, I don't know.
Dec 19, 2021
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#33
justbefair wrote:
Even if your post resulted in a mute, posts aren't auto-edited.
My point is that if the word in question is forbidden, how did the other member post it?
Well it's supposed to be a family friendly enviroment. It's not a cod lobby, it's chess. I understand the frustration when someone gets muted for a silly reason. But in the greater picture if someone needs a list of banned words to behave, it just sounds like they want to break the rules without getting caught to me. I feel like that's a pretty reasonable take
Dec 19, 2021
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#35
GrouseGorge wrote:
Well it's supposed to be a family friendly enviroment. It's not a cod lobby, it's chess. I understand the frustration when someone gets muted for a silly reason. But in the greater picture if someone needs a list of banned words to behave, it just sounds like they want to break the rules without getting caught to me. I feel like that's a pretty reasonable take
The problem is that some banned words are quite ordinary terms, only becoming profane in certain contexts. Other words that are always offensive seem to get a pass.
The bot cannot distinguish context.
The bot is working from a skewed lexicon.
An actual list of the bot’s offensive terms would allow users to suggest improvements in the list.
Dec 19, 2021
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#36
Ziryab wrote:
GrouseGorge wrote:
Well it's supposed to be a family friendly enviroment. It's not a cod lobby, it's chess. I understand the frustration when someone gets muted for a silly reason. But in the greater picture if someone needs a list of banned words to behave, it just sounds like they want to break the rules without getting caught to me. I feel like that's a pretty reasonable take
The problem is that some banned words are quite ordinary terms, only becoming profane in certain contexts. Other words that are always offensive seem to get a pass.
The bot cannot distinguish context.
The bot is working from a skewed lexicon.
An actual list of the bot’s offensive terms would allow users to suggest improvements in the list.
I particularly like the last point.
Dec 19, 2021
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#37
GrouseGorge wrote:
Well it's supposed to be a family friendly enviroment. It's not a cod lobby, it's chess. I understand the frustration when someone gets muted for a silly reason. But in the greater picture if someone needs a list of banned words to behave, it just sounds like they want to break the rules without getting caught to me. I feel like that's a pretty reasonable take
The thing is that I want to know the concrete rules first before respectfully obeying them to the best of my abilities.
On my last account I wanted to console a friend of mine who got bullied here and I attempted to tell her via DM: 'Some people really need to get their heads out of their a$$', ... BAM, 1-week-autoban! I got so irate over this that I deleted my account (admittedly I was also quite intoxicated at the time but whatever) and went on to talk with her by different means.
At that time I didn't want to be rude nor offensive, but a dumb program naturally can't discern the nuances of normal human conversation.
*rant over*
I was sure that adding stars (***) in the words was working, but I just received a message saying that my comment doesn't fit the chess community rules.
St** *id engine
CannedAsparagus wrote:
Is there such a thing? I'm sure it would help many people to prevent getting muted.
Smart people can avoid hard coded AI easily.
e.g Get the F__ off.
that would be very helpful