Feature Request: 'Offer Resign' button

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22289d

Similar to 'Offer Draw' but you're offering your opponent the opportunity to resign.

For example in this game:

Black is thinking for a long time. I would like to Offer Resign, so if they click it they resign and the game is over. I'm suggesting to them that they've lost.

3rdcat

Should be a ridondance option. Give him checkmate and go on...

dashygalaxy
It would be kind of annoying if someone spammed “Offer Resign” when they are losing though…
FullTiltBunny

Yeah not going to happen. It would be like asking your opponent to resign in an OTB game, which is considered very rude.

TheSonics

Remember: when ever you have the thought "i wish he resgined" 

that is a weak thought because it is you who is afraid of:

1.Blundering it away

2. Making a mess of it and allowing counter play

3. Stalemate in time pressure or flag...

4. Looking at yourself in the mirror after Check mating in 90 moves with 2 queens like a noob

5. trying to convert in fewest moves like a boss and allowing some flagging attempt... etc...

That is how chess works... subconscious fear translates in to hubris...

22289d
TheSonics wrote:

Remember: when ever you have the thought "i wish he resgined" 

that is a weak thought because it is you who is afraid of:

1.Blundering it away

2. Making a mess of it and allowing counter play

3. Stalemate in time pressure or flag...

4. Looking at yourself in the mirror after Check mating in 90 moves with 2 queens like a noob

5. trying to convert in fewest moves like a boss and allowing some flagging attempt... etc...

That is how chess works... subconscious fear translates in to hubris...

actually it's none of those, it's:

1. being annoyed that they are wasting my time

2. being offended that they are insulting me thinking i wont win

FullTiltBunny

FYI if your opponent intentionally stalls out in an obviously dead-lost position, you can report them for it. There's a drop-down list with the option for "stalling, quitting games".

TheSonics
22289d wrote:
TheSonics wrote:

Remember: when ever you have the thought "i wish he resgined" 

that is a weak thought because it is you who is afraid of:

1.Blundering it away

2. Making a mess of it and allowing counter play

3. Stalemate in time pressure or flag...

4. Looking at yourself in the mirror after Check mating in 90 moves with 2 queens like a noob

5. trying to convert in fewest moves like a boss and allowing some flagging attempt... etc...

That is how chess works... subconscious fear translates in to hubris...

actually it's none of those, it's:

1. being annoyed that they are wasting my time

2. being offended that they are insulting me thinking i wont win

Exactly!! both of your 1. and 2 are conscious thoughts that are driven by sub conscious fears which is what I wrote. I was writing in words what is the sub conscious force behind these thoughts, and you (or anyone) can't know what's in your sub conscious. Well, people can, if you play Classical games lose them and then analyze what actually created the mental state of hubris or carelessness to or arrogance to believe they are "wasting your time". What could it be, if not a fear of calculating the win patiently like a strong player? That's not so easy right?...

"Wasting your time", why, did you convert all the positions you were ever up a piece in?

Are you a master level player?

No, you slip. I slip... And they have a right to try to learn how to defend a position on the time you both agreed to spend on a game. They have a right to annoy you, if they succeed in getting to you that is a win for them. Don't be annoyed. It's not your time, the time belongs to both of you.

Even lame stallers... Use this time to calculate how winning you are.

Jackf3g4

There should be such a button. Only it should mean an automatic resignation for the person pressing it. After all, in OTB it is against the rules to distract your opponent. And repeat offense for particularly something as ridiculous as a 1400 (say 1200 OTB equivalent at best) insisting upon his own infallibility in the extraordinarily horrid sportsmanship of actually pressing an opponent to quit would end with his being declared a loser.

TheSonics is correct.

There is no such thing as dead lost against a 1400 online rating. That's the realm of blundering. And 2000 (say 1800 real world) online is also not at all infallible. And there's the thing. Just how do you think people are going to accept your infallibility? Particularly when there are TITLED players in vids blundering into stalemates at least and plain loss at times. Please help me understand how you intend to convince people of your omniscience? Please explain just how you will manage this. Because you haven't even started on that yet.

Grrdy
dashygalaxy wrote:
It would be kind of annoying if someone spammed “Offer Resign” when they are losing though…

And that is exactly what would happen. We already see this with draws.

22289d
TheSonics wrote:
22289d wrote:
TheSonics wrote:

Remember: when ever you have the thought "i wish he resgined" 

that is a weak thought because it is you who is afraid of:

1.Blundering it away

2. Making a mess of it and allowing counter play

3. Stalemate in time pressure or flag...

4. Looking at yourself in the mirror after Check mating in 90 moves with 2 queens like a noob

5. trying to convert in fewest moves like a boss and allowing some flagging attempt... etc...

That is how chess works... subconscious fear translates in to hubris...

actually it's none of those, it's:

1. being annoyed that they are wasting my time

2. being offended that they are insulting me thinking i wont win

Exactly!! both of your 1. and 2 are conscious thoughts that are driven by sub conscious fears which is what I wrote. I was writing in words what is the sub conscious force behind these thoughts, and you (or anyone) can't know what's in your sub conscious. Well, people can, if you play Classical games lose them and then analyze what actually created the mental state of hubris or carelessness to or arrogance to believe they are "wasting your time". What could it be, if not a fear of calculating the win patiently like a strong player? That's not so easy right?...

"Wasting your time", why, did you convert all the positions you were ever up a piece in?

Are you a master level player?

No, you slip. I slip... And they have a right to try to learn how to defend a position on the time you both agreed to spend on a game. They have a right to annoy you, if they succeed in getting to you that is a win for them. Don't be annoyed. It's not your time, the time belongs to both of you.

Even lame stallers... Use this time to calculate how winning you are.

You are wrong that I have a subconscious fear of anything in this position:

White has one legal move. When they make it, I am going to checkmate them.

And as I said, it's both annoying that they're wasting my time by not resigning - and offensive if they think I'm too dumb to see the checkmate.

omnipaul
22289d wrote:

Similar to 'Offer Draw' but you're offering your opponent the opportunity to resign.

For example in this game:

Black is thinking for a long time. I would like to Offer Resign, so if they click it they resign and the game is over. I'm suggesting to them that they've lost.

Maybe they were laughing so hard at you missing Qd8# that they had a heart attack. Have a little empathy.

I mean, who is wasting whose time, here? You had a mate in one and instead decided to go pawn hunting. Maybe they even closed the game window thinking you couldn't possibly miss mate in one and just wanted to get up and do something else.

22289d
omnipaul wrote:
22289d wrote:

Similar to 'Offer Draw' but you're offering your opponent the opportunity to resign.

For example in this game:

Black is thinking for a long time. I would like to Offer Resign, so if they click it they resign and the game is over. I'm suggesting to them that they've lost.

Maybe they were laughing so hard at you missing Qd8# that they had a heart attack. Have a little empathy.

I mean, who is wasting whose time, here? You had a mate in one and instead decided to go pawn hunting. Maybe they even closed the game window thinking you couldn't possibly miss mate in one and just wanted to get up and do something else.

When people don't resign I drag the game out for a long time and mess with them. I probably captured all of their pieces here, pinned them in the corner and then promoted that pawn to a horse.

omnipaul
22289d wrote:
omnipaul wrote:
22289d wrote:

Similar to 'Offer Draw' but you're offering your opponent the opportunity to resign.

For example in this game:

Black is thinking for a long time. I would like to Offer Resign, so if they click it they resign and the game is over. I'm suggesting to them that they've lost.

Maybe they were laughing so hard at you missing Qd8# that they had a heart attack. Have a little empathy.

I mean, who is wasting whose time, here? You had a mate in one and instead decided to go pawn hunting. Maybe they even closed the game window thinking you couldn't possibly miss mate in one and just wanted to get up and do something else.

When people don't resign I drag the game out for a long time and mess with them. I probably captured all of their pieces here, pinned them in the corner and then promoted that pawn to a horse.

So, again, you're wasting your own time. Also, you're maybe giving your opponent a little hope for a stalemate since you evidently don't know how to win quickly and efficiently, thus justifying their choice to delay resigning.

TheSonics

there was a huge post on this a while back... i also like to give myself try not to stalemate exercises when people don't resign.. but i think it's for your own benefit not to be offended or insulted or impatient... if there is a mate in 1 obviously there is no sub-conscious fear of anything but in general when you start to feel like they should resign that's bascially you wishing they would resign, so you can "get your next game for more dopamine fix" or so you get this feeling of "perfect game", with no need to demonstrate propper conversion technique (looking at yourself struggling to convert completely winning positions can be tough) or just because your angry... Why wouldn't they resign? In GM games they always resign. Because GM's actually convert +15 positions 99% of the time lol

this version of anger is from a fat ego mindset not good for chess... Objectivity , calmness, focus, calculation, etc.. these are awarded in chess, not anger, being offended, insulted..

So.. You should hope they don't resign so you can get to exercise efficient mating technique. I'm actually trying to help happy.png

3am_illusion

people just need to stop resigning. like you almost mate someone and then that person resigns like wheres the sadisfaction in that. (i´m not trying to be mean) (also not angry)

KevinOSh

Players who drag out games in completely lost positions can be annoying, but it is their right to do so.

The aim of the game is to checkmate the enemy king. Resignation is an option for the benefit of the losing player, not the winning player.