No hard feelings, the point of this thread was to request a feature which doesn't harm anyone.
Feature suggestion - opponent by nationality
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Oct 3, 2022
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#43
PatrickHockstetter wrote:
No hard feelings, the point of this thread was to request a feature which doesn't harm anyone.
I'm reluctant to admit it, but I sort of agree with you. I just think the rhetoric in your initial post could have been a bit less provocative. Maybe just asking to search for opponents by nationality would have been less problematic.
I withdraw my crack about baloney.
Oct 3, 2022
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#44
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
PatrickHockstetter wrote:
No hard feelings, the point of this thread was to request a feature which doesn't harm anyone.
I'm reluctant to admit it, but I sort of agree with you. I just think the rhetoric in your initial post could have been a bit less provocative. Maybe just asking to search for opponents by nationality would have been less problematic.
I withdraw my crack about baloney.
How is that going to be any different than choosing a flag?
Well, no difference, really. I just meant that his remark about "third world countries" was unnecessary. Just asking to search by nationality would have sufficed, and probably caused a lot less negative reaction.
And who uses that phrase "third world" anymore? Didn't that go out with disco?
Oct 3, 2022
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#45
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
PatrickHockstetter wrote:
No hard feelings, the point of this thread was to request a feature which doesn't harm anyone.
I'm reluctant to admit it, but I sort of agree with you. I just think the rhetoric in your initial post could have been a bit less provocative. Maybe just asking to search for opponents by nationality would have been less problematic.
I withdraw my crack about baloney.
How is that going to be any different than choosing a flag?
Well, no difference, really. I just meant that his remark about "third world countries" was unnecessary. Just asking to search by nationality would have sufficed, and probably caused a lot less negative reaction.
And who uses that phrase "third world" anymore? Didn't that go out with disco?
Where do you think those $1000 IPhone's, Nike shoes, and such are made?
In third world countries, of course. But what I meant was the term "third world" is kind of old hat. More politically correct is "developing countries" or "emerging markets". But even those are problematic.......
Come to think of it, the term "old hat" is kind of old hat.
Oct 3, 2022
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#46
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
PatrickHockstetter wrote:
No hard feelings, the point of this thread was to request a feature which doesn't harm anyone.
I'm reluctant to admit it, but I sort of agree with you. I just think the rhetoric in your initial post could have been a bit less provocative. Maybe just asking to search for opponents by nationality would have been less problematic.
I withdraw my crack about baloney.
How is that going to be any different than choosing a flag?
Well, no difference, really. I just meant that his remark about "third world countries" was unnecessary. Just asking to search by nationality would have sufficed, and probably caused a lot less negative reaction.
And who uses that phrase "third world" anymore? Didn't that go out with disco?
Where do you think those $1000 IPhone's, Nike shoes, and such are made?
In third world countries, of course. But what I meant was the term "third world" is kind of old hat. More politically correct is "developing countries" or "emerging markets". But even those are problematic.......
Come to think of it, the term "old hat" is kind of old hat.
If we are shooting for political correctness then lets call it what it is. Slave Labor.
Now now. You're just jealous because your ancestors weren't treated like cattle.
Oct 3, 2022
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#47
theRonster456 wrote:
When someone has nothing else to do with their time or brain, apparently this is what they come up with. They write articles telling everyone how offensive a term is, even if it's not offending anyone.
Oct 3, 2022
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#48
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
PatrickHockstetter wrote:
No hard feelings, the point of this thread was to request a feature which doesn't harm anyone.
I'm reluctant to admit it, but I sort of agree with you. I just think the rhetoric in your initial post could have been a bit less provocative. Maybe just asking to search for opponents by nationality would have been less problematic.
I withdraw my crack about baloney.
How is that going to be any different than choosing a flag?
Well, no difference, really. I just meant that his remark about "third world countries" was unnecessary. Just asking to search by nationality would have sufficed, and probably caused a lot less negative reaction.
And who uses that phrase "third world" anymore? Didn't that go out with disco?
Where do you think those $1000 IPhone's, Nike shoes, and such are made?
In third world countries, of course. But what I meant was the term "third world" is kind of old hat. More politically correct is "developing countries" or "emerging markets". But even those are problematic.......
Come to think of it, the term "old hat" is kind of old hat.
If we are shooting for political correctness then lets call it what it is. Slave Labor.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "slave labor" in this context. In terms of sheer numbers, China probably leads the world in workers that could be classified as "slave laborers" (remember the suicide nets at the Apple factories in Shenzhen?). But we don't call China "third world". We call it, at worst, an "adversary". Usually something vague and noncommittal is used, like "trading partner". In any case, asking to screen countries in Chess.com by their use or nonuse of slave labor is probably even less likely to succeed.
In before the lock
Oct 3, 2022
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#50
I want to be able to choose only those who play on $67 phones. Maybe they’ll lose connection more often. Then I’ll be able to start one of those “I’m so angry, my opponent keeps losing connection and I win. So unfair!” threads.
Oct 3, 2022
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#51
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
PatrickHockstetter wrote:
No hard feelings, the point of this thread was to request a feature which doesn't harm anyone.
I'm reluctant to admit it, but I sort of agree with you. I just think the rhetoric in your initial post could have been a bit less provocative. Maybe just asking to search for opponents by nationality would have been less problematic.
I withdraw my crack about baloney.
How is that going to be any different than choosing a flag?
Well, no difference, really. I just meant that his remark about "third world countries" was unnecessary. Just asking to search by nationality would have sufficed, and probably caused a lot less negative reaction.
And who uses that phrase "third world" anymore? Didn't that go out with disco?
Where do you think those $1000 IPhone's, Nike shoes, and such are made?
In third world countries, of course. But what I meant was the term "third world" is kind of old hat. More politically correct is "developing countries" or "emerging markets". But even those are problematic.......
Come to think of it, the term "old hat" is kind of old hat.
If we are shooting for political correctness then lets call it what it is. Slave Labor.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "slave labor" in this context. In terms of sheer numbers, China probably leads the world in workers that could be classified as "slave laborers" (remember the suicide nets at the Apple factories in Shenzhen?). But we don't call China "third world". We call it, at worst, an "adversary". Usually something vague and noncommittal is used, like "trading partner". In any case, asking to screen countries in Chess.com by their use or nonuse of slave labor is probably even less likely to succeed.
When the average cost to make a iphone is $67, and they charge $1000. Thats slave labor. But yes i do agree that there should not be a way to screen members here by things such flags, nationalities, etc. After that it just becomes obviously clear what some members would want.
What! $67!? That's less than a pair of Nikes! It's like we're regressing back to the 19th century, the age of the robber barons! What's next? 12 hour workdays, six days a week at the Amazon "fulfillment" centers?! Oh wait, I think they already have that.......
Oct 3, 2022
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#53
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
PatrickHockstetter wrote:
No hard feelings, the point of this thread was to request a feature which doesn't harm anyone.
I'm reluctant to admit it, but I sort of agree with you. I just think the rhetoric in your initial post could have been a bit less provocative. Maybe just asking to search for opponents by nationality would have been less problematic.
I withdraw my crack about baloney.
How is that going to be any different than choosing a flag?
Well, no difference, really. I just meant that his remark about "third world countries" was unnecessary. Just asking to search by nationality would have sufficed, and probably caused a lot less negative reaction.
And who uses that phrase "third world" anymore? Didn't that go out with disco?
Where do you think those $1000 IPhone's, Nike shoes, and such are made?
In third world countries, of course. But what I meant was the term "third world" is kind of old hat. More politically correct is "developing countries" or "emerging markets". But even those are problematic.......
Come to think of it, the term "old hat" is kind of old hat.
If we are shooting for political correctness then lets call it what it is. Slave Labor.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "slave labor" in this context. In terms of sheer numbers, China probably leads the world in workers that could be classified as "slave laborers" (remember the suicide nets at the Apple factories in Shenzhen?). But we don't call China "third world". We call it, at worst, an "adversary". Usually something vague and noncommittal is used, like "trading partner". In any case, asking to screen countries in Chess.com by their use or nonuse of slave labor is probably even less likely to succeed.
When the average cost to make a iphone is $67, and they charge $1000. Thats slave labor. But yes i do agree that there should not be a way to screen members here by things such flags, nationalities, etc. After that it just becomes obviously clear what some members would want.
What! $67!? That's less than a pair of Nikes! It's like we're regressing back to the 19th century, the age of the robber barons! What's next? 12 hour workdays, six days a week at the Amazon "fulfillment" centers?! Oh wait, I think they already have that.......
People have no problem paying for convenience. As long as they don't have to see what goes on behind the scenes.
It's like that line derived from a remark by the poet John Godfrey Saxe: "how the sausage gets made". People may like to eat sausage, but they don't want to know all the gory details that go into making it.
Oct 3, 2022
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#54
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
PatrickHockstetter wrote:
No hard feelings, the point of this thread was to request a feature which doesn't harm anyone.
I'm reluctant to admit it, but I sort of agree with you. I just think the rhetoric in your initial post could have been a bit less provocative. Maybe just asking to search for opponents by nationality would have been less problematic.
I withdraw my crack about baloney.
How is that going to be any different than choosing a flag?
Well, no difference, really. I just meant that his remark about "third world countries" was unnecessary. Just asking to search by nationality would have sufficed, and probably caused a lot less negative reaction.
And who uses that phrase "third world" anymore? Didn't that go out with disco?
Where do you think those $1000 IPhone's, Nike shoes, and such are made?
In third world countries, of course. But what I meant was the term "third world" is kind of old hat. More politically correct is "developing countries" or "emerging markets". But even those are problematic.......
Come to think of it, the term "old hat" is kind of old hat.
If we are shooting for political correctness then lets call it what it is. Slave Labor.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "slave labor" in this context. In terms of sheer numbers, China probably leads the world in workers that could be classified as "slave laborers" (remember the suicide nets at the Apple factories in Shenzhen?). But we don't call China "third world". We call it, at worst, an "adversary". Usually something vague and noncommittal is used, like "trading partner". In any case, asking to screen countries in Chess.com by their use or nonuse of slave labor is probably even less likely to succeed.
When the average cost to make a iphone is $67, and they charge $1000. Thats slave labor. But yes i do agree that there should not be a way to screen members here by things such flags, nationalities, etc. After that it just becomes obviously clear what some members would want.
What! $67!? That's less than a pair of Nikes! It's like we're regressing back to the 19th century, the age of the robber barons! What's next? 12 hour workdays, six days a week at the Amazon "fulfillment" centers?! Oh wait, I think they already have that.......
People have no problem paying for convenience. As long as they don't have to see what goes on behind the scenes.
It's like that line derived from a remark by the poet John Godfrey Saxe: "how the sausage gets made". People may like to eat sausage, but they don't want to know all the gory details that go into making it.
My oldest daughter worked at one of those amazon distribution centers. She said they are as awful as you hear about. But people dont care as long as they get there 2 day deliveries.
Yeah, Amazon makes a lot of "sausage", so to speak. But no matter how much bad press they get, people keep using them and looking the other way when it comes to the subject of worker abuse. The same thing happened after the Tiananmen Square protests in 1989. Spokesmen for some of the thousands of companies that do business in China decried the brutal treatment of that country's own citizens. But it was just talk, and most companies continued doing business with China. Even today, many countries, including the U.S., trade extensively with other countries that have political ideologies in conflict with their own. We sell billions of dollars worth of military hardware to Saudi Arabia, which is a rather brutal dictatorship (forget that "royal family" monarchy stuff..... it's a dictatorship). But the Saudis don't like Iran..... so "enemy of my enemy" etc. But I'm sort of making the OP's case for him, which wasn't my intention. In fact, since Jeff Bezos is an American, and Amazon is an American company, perhaps I should remove old glory from my profile. Nah..... I don't think I will. That's too much work. Besides, I like this country, flaws and all.
And what's with those mods?? Why haven't they locked this thread, so I can stop posting this tripe and go have dinner?
PatrickHockstetter wrote:
Hi there, I for one am fed up of getting absolutely destroyed by people from third world countries who have nothing else to do but practice chess all day. I would like to only play people from the United Kingdom, United States, Canada, Australia etc.
Is it possible that we can search opponents by nationality? Or, alternatively, can we have a feature to not play opponents from India, Indonesia, Malaysia etc?
This troll is still around?
Oct 3, 2022
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#56
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
theRonster456 wrote:
PatrickHockstetter wrote:
No hard feelings, the point of this thread was to request a feature which doesn't harm anyone.
I'm reluctant to admit it, but I sort of agree with you. I just think the rhetoric in your initial post could have been a bit less provocative. Maybe just asking to search for opponents by nationality would have been less problematic.
I withdraw my crack about baloney.
How is that going to be any different than choosing a flag?
Well, no difference, really. I just meant that his remark about "third world countries" was unnecessary. Just asking to search by nationality would have sufficed, and probably caused a lot less negative reaction.
And who uses that phrase "third world" anymore? Didn't that go out with disco?
Where do you think those $1000 IPhone's, Nike shoes, and such are made?
In third world countries, of course. But what I meant was the term "third world" is kind of old hat. More politically correct is "developing countries" or "emerging markets". But even those are problematic.......
Come to think of it, the term "old hat" is kind of old hat.
If we are shooting for political correctness then lets call it what it is. Slave Labor.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "slave labor" in this context. In terms of sheer numbers, China probably leads the world in workers that could be classified as "slave laborers" (remember the suicide nets at the Apple factories in Shenzhen?). But we don't call China "third world". We call it, at worst, an "adversary". Usually something vague and noncommittal is used, like "trading partner". In any case, asking to screen countries in Chess.com by their use or nonuse of slave labor is probably even less likely to succeed.
When the average cost to make a iphone is $67, and they charge $1000. Thats slave labor. But yes i do agree that there should not be a way to screen members here by things such flags, nationalities, etc. After that it just becomes obviously clear what some members would want.
What! $67!? That's less than a pair of Nikes! It's like we're regressing back to the 19th century, the age of the robber barons! What's next? 12 hour workdays, six days a week at the Amazon "fulfillment" centers?! Oh wait, I think they already have that.......
People have no problem paying for convenience. As long as they don't have to see what goes on behind the scenes.
It's like that line derived from a remark by the poet John Godfrey Saxe: "how the sausage gets made". People may like to eat sausage, but they don't want to know all the gory details that go into making it.
My oldest daughter worked at one of those amazon distribution centers. She said they are as awful as you hear about. But people dont care as long as they get there 2 day deliveries.
Yeah, Amazon makes a lot of "sausage", so to speak. But no matter how much bad press they get, people keep using them and looking the other way when it comes to the subject of worker abuse. The same thing happened after the Tiananmen Square protests in 1989. Spokesmen for some of the thousands of companies that do business in China decried the brutal treatment of that country's own citizens. But it was just talk, and most companies continued doing business with China. Even today, many countries, including the U.S., trade extensively with other countries that have political ideologies in conflict with their own. We sell billions of dollars worth of military hardware to Saudi Arabia, which is a rather brutal dictatorship (forget that "royal family" monarchy stuff..... it's a dictatorship). But the Saudis don't like Iran..... so "enemy of my enemy" etc. But I'm sort of making the OP's case for him, which wasn't my intention. In fact, since Jeff Bezos is an American, and Amazon is an American company, perhaps I should remove old glory from my profile. Nah..... I don't think I will. That's too much work. Besides, I like this country, flaws and all.
And what's with those mods?? Why haven't they locked this thread, so I can stop posting this tripe and go have dinner?
Remember right after 911? You saw American flags everywhere. Everyone was a patriot and a true American. For about a week then that died off. Its the same as you said. All the companies making killer profits off of slave labor (Yes i will keep using that term) will shout to the heavens about abuse. But in the long run its still all about profit no matter how people are treated. Its like Thanksgiving. Spending time with family, reminiscing, love. Then you head off to the local mall and trample people to get that 800" TV for $99
Wow! 800"!! That's a BIG TV! And for only 99 bucks! Can't beat that price with a stick!
But there's not so much trampling anymore since many folks have switched to online purchasing and creepy companies like Amazon to deliver their stuff. The mad rush to grab those post-Thanksgiving bargains at the brick and mortars has been replaced by a lot of online clicking. So now, thanks to the internet, we have a lot of abandoned shopping malls, hacked bank accounts, social networking bullying and hate speech, isolation, depression, and rampant emojis. I'm not sure where such a transition fits into Hegel's philosophy of history. It seems to contradict the whole concept of human progress.......
PatrickHockstetter wrote:
No hard feelings, the point of this thread was to request a feature which doesn't harm anyone.
the feature is pointless because you can literally change your flag in your settings menu.
So that alleged Indonesian player you lost to might not even be indonesian. That french guy might not be french.
It's literally useless to make an option to blacklist those flags on accounts so u dont play them. You could have an Indonesian who lives in Australia, or the US, or in China.
I don't understand why you're still talking about this.
Oct 3, 2022
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#58
Soniasthetics wrote:
I don't understand why you're still talking about this.
You're missing the point. It's about TV haves and have nots.
But then someone just mentioned an 800" TV. Now I'm suddenly feeling inadequate.
Oct 3, 2022
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#59
NervesofButter wrote:
Where do you think those $1000 IPhone's, Nike shoes, and such are made?
Someone else's backyard
Hi there, I for one am fed up of getting absolutely destroyed by people from third world countries who have nothing else to do but practice chess all day. I would like to only play people from the United Kingdom, United States, Canada, Australia etc.
Is it possible that we can search opponents by nationality? Or, alternatively, can we have a feature to not play opponents from India, Indonesia, Malaysia etc?
You realise the flag icon has zero meaning right?
You can modify the flag to anything. I could be in Japan and put my flag as Germany, it doesn't mean anything.
Kind of makes one wonder: why have the flags at all? Why not have an icon for your religion or your favorite color? That would be just as inappropriate.
Chess.com asks for "no religious or political debate". But they encourage that debate by allowing members to display a political symbol, namely the flag of a country.
A flag of a country isn't political.
Well, I suppose you can make that argument. But if that were the case, why are we having this discussion right now?
Some people, whether rightly or wrongly, have issues with the politics of a given nation. And as we can see, over and over again, some members post comments about those politics. From what I've seen, as often, as not these discussions degenerate into angry arguments replete with loads of expletives and other nasty stuff.
And what is a flag doing there in the first place? As you yourself pointed out, a member can put any old flag next to their name. So it's meaningless. What does a flag have to do with chess, anyway?
"But if that were the case, why are we having this discussion right now?"
Because someone made the decision to be offended over a symbol.
So why give them the opportunity to get offended in the first place? Let's not be naive about this. Some people will read into that symbol all sorts of nefarious ideas. Admittedly, folks who have problems with the image of a flag may not be the brightest people in the world. But there's no requirement for Chess.com members to not be stupid (if there were, I'd have been thrown out years ago). All I'm saying is: this website could maybe avoid a lot of problems and controversy by simply removing the flag icon field. If a member prefers showing a flag, they could use it as their picture.
People will read into a symbol what they have been taught. Take the swastika. Now someone can interpret its meaning based on Hitler, or what its original intent was. If someone wants to read something into a flag symbol? Thats on them. Aint nothing you or I say will change that. Thats like telling someone raised in a racist home to not be racist. Thats all they know.
I agree with all that. I still don't see what a flag has to do with chess.
BTW, I wonder why this thread hasn't been locked yet. Isn't this discussion too political? Maybe the mods are on coffee break or something......
LOL...Thats kinda the point. It has nothing to do with chess. Again, this was started because someone woke up today, decided to login to chess.com, play chess, and throw a hissy fit because they saw a flag from a certain country. Does any of t his make sense? Not at all. But it makes sense to the OP.
Its not locked YET. Because the personal attacks havent started yet. Give it time. One of two things will happen:
1. The OP will wake up and realize how foolish this is, not admit to that, and attack someone.
2. Someone will post here attacking the OP.
Okay. I'll start the ball rolling:
Hey, OP! Ya' fulla' baloney!