Is accuracy, a joke?

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I just saw this game, where played by 1000+ rated player , with 1  mistake , 7 blunders ? And the accuracy of white player is still 95+.

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/3728331200?tab=report

 

How do you guys calculate those stats?

 

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drmrboss wrote:

I just saw this game, where played by 1000+ rated players , with 1  mistake , 7 blunders ? And the accuracy of white player is still 95+.

 

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/3728331200?tab=report

 

How do you guys calculate those stats?

 

I agree that results like that make CAPS seem like a joke.

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Yeah I want to understand the CAPs system better too.

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drmrboss wrote:

I just saw this game, where played by 1000+ rated player , with 1  mistake , 7 blunders ? And the accuracy of white player is still 95+.

 

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/3728331200?tab=report

 

How do you guys calculate those stats?

 

 

In a game that has a lot of easier to find moves (maybe forced moves, simple endgames, etc) accuracy can get pretty high, even if the early game has more inaccuracies.

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I was actually just literally discussing with out team about an upcoming article we are going to post about how accuracy is calculated. 

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sounds like CAPS is bad. This is a shame, since I thought that that system declared that Carlsen was the most accurate and therefore best player of all time.

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Accuracy is not equivalent to CAPs. In Chess.com, "accuracy" refers to the % of moves that you played that were in say the top 3 best moves recommended by the engine. So you could play a lot of moves that were not the best move and still have a high precision score. If you want to see how often you played the best move, go to to the "details" tab for a better measure of your playing ability. For example, I just played a friend and we both scored 96% CAPs but we both had a best move rate around 55%. Also, I've noticed when a stronger player is playing a weaker player, the stronger player's precision score is much higher. Chess.com may also compare the precision between both players throughout the game before showing the final precision score. Not sure wink.png

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Loganrithm wrote:

Accuracy is not equivalent to CAPs. In Chess.com, "accuracy" refers to the % of moves that you played that were in say the top 3 best moves recommended by the engine. So you could play a lot of moves that were not the best move and still have a high precision score. If you want to see how often you played the best move, go to to the "details" tab for a better measure of your playing ability. For example, I just played a friend and we both scored 96% CAPs but we both had a best move rate around 55%. Also, I've noticed when a stronger player is playing a weaker player, the stronger player's precision score is much higher. Chess.com may also compare the precision between both players throughout the game before showing the final precision score. Not sure

Site CEO Erik said accuracy was a new name for CAPS when they rolled out the new analysis.

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They haven't given any specifics about how accuracy/caps is calculated. They are both the same. 

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The CAPS score ceased to be relevant when they rolled in the new, inferior analysis board.

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Loganrithm wrote:

Accuracy is not equivalent to CAPs. In Chess.com, "accuracy" refers to the % of moves that you played that were in say the top 3 best moves recommended by the engine. So you could play a lot of moves that were not the best move and still have a high precision score. If you want to see how often you played the best move, go to to the "details" tab for a better measure of your playing ability. For example, I just played a friend and we both scored 96% CAPs but we both had a best move rate around 55%. Also, I've noticed when a stronger player is playing a weaker player, the stronger player's precision score is much higher. Chess.com may also compare the precision between both players throughout the game before showing the final precision score. Not sure

Accuracy, or precision?  You shouldn't use those words interchangeably as they are different. In other words, you should be more precise with your language.  😄

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accuracy_and_precision

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Forum toxic as always. Oh well.

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Let me look into this and get back to you. Thanks!

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jdcannon wrote:

I was actually just literally discussing with out team about an upcoming article we are going to post about how accuracy is calculated. 

 

Is that article still in the works?  I would really like to better understand the accuracy scores too.  For example, how is it possible for the following moves to be considered 98.1% accurate?

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CAPS became useless when they changed the analysis. Since the analysis is also useless, look elsewhere for a report.

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Looking into this 98.1. But the fact that you had 17 out of 23 moves perfect, that is VERY strong. 

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For sure. Every game depends. We are looking to make this smarter...

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can you say 'database' ....?

 

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erik wrote:

Looking into this 98.1. But the fact that you had 17 out of 23 moves perfect, that is VERY strong. 

17/23=73.9%, !!

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17/23 = 73.9%...

So you are assigning ZERO value to good moves that aren’t perfect?