New Termination Field in game information - discussion

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jas0501

A new game information field has been added to Beta. The termination field. It is displayed in game Info tab  and and in Analysis Details tab:

This termination status is a nice addition and hopefully will be displayed as a field in the archive listing and also offered as a filter in the archive search.

Currently I think the implemented values are:

  • winner_name won on time
  • winner_name won by resignation
  • winner_name won by checkmate
  • winner_name won - game abandoned
  • Game drawn by agreement
  • Game drawn by insufficient material
  • Game drawn by repetition
  • Game drawn by 50 move rule
  • Game drawn by stalemate
  • Game drawn by timeout vs insufficient material

On could imagine clever icons for each of the bold keywords above display as a column in the archive. Then one could filter the archive on games lost by checkmate for easy review. 

Discussion question:
Should the Game drawn terminations be more refined and include player color? 

For example Game drawn by stalemate does not indicate which king was stalemated. Also in the future doing a query on by stalemate won't permit easy review of the games where my opponent was stalemated.

Maybe 

  • Game drawn by agreement, offered by white/black
  • Game drawn by black/white stalemate
  • Game drawn by repetition, claimed by white/black
  • Game drawn by 50 move rule claimed by white/black
  • Game drawn by white/black timeout vs insufficient material
  • Game drawn by insufficient material

Does anyone else have some thoughts on the matter?

jas0501

Here is a hypothetical approach to Termination by Draw archive query, though the wording could use some work:

Possible draw drop down choices, (missing Insufficient material entry and 50 move entry)

 

jdcannon

We've added this suggestion to our plans to add; I do not have a time frame when we might expect it though. 

jas0501

Suggestion changing the Termination field composition:
In thinking about querying the Termination field it may make it easier if the field specified the color instead of the name. Instead of

    Termination:  jas0501 won on time

an improved alternate would be

    Termination: White won on time

This may make composing queries to find all games lost on time easier:

Game="Lost" and
((Color="White" and Termination="Black Won on time") or
 (Color="Black" and Termination="White won on time"))

 

Martin_Stahl
jas0501 wrote:

Suggestion changing the Termination field composition:
In thinking about querying the Termination field it may make it easier if the field specified the color instead of the name. Instead of

    Termination:  jas0501 won on time

an improved alternate would be

    Termination: White won on time

This may make composing queries to find all games lost on time easier:

Game="Lost" and
((Color="White" and Termination="Black Won on time") or
 (Color="Black" and Termination="White won on time"))

 

 

This is available in beta now. You can search by termination type and just don't change the color parameter to give both colors.

jas0501

Cool. Didn't know it had been added:

Martin_Stahl

Actually, it is the regular, non-beta site as well. happy.png