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blackfirestorm
Yes its what we have got at the moment so no harm in asking for better. Like rooperi said it shows games at random and often leaves games out? As it is a lot of us have a lot more than 20 games going some people have over double that so why not have a very simple system where all games are on one page and at the top of that list you have the games with least amount of time? They did it for online games so why not vote chess games?
knightspawn5
blackfirestorm666 wrote:
Yes its what we have got at the moment so no harm in asking for better. Like rooperi said it shows games at random and often leaves games out? As it is a lot of us have a lot more than 20 games going some people have over double that so why not have a very simple system where all games are on one page and at the top of that list you have the games with least amount of time? They did it for online games so why not vote chess games?

 That why I said back in note 19,  why hasn't anyone asked them to find out why.. That way we will know why...

blackfirestorm
Terry with the amount of times this question has been asked surely it would be obvious we are asking "if not then why not?"
knightspawn5
blackfirestorm666 wrote:
Terry with the amount of times this question has been asked surely it would be obvious we are asking "if not then why not?"

 Seems that no answer has come back yet then.  Did you ask it though the help and support site??????  Or Just on here???

blackfirestorm
I am aware of at least 3 forum threads having been created right here in these forums and while yes I do appreciate that staff are busy why have a suggestions forum if your not going to read them or if they do read then why not say a yes no or maybe?
FVC123

It is a vote game there should never be timeouts.

TheGrobe

Wouldn't that encourage teams in losing positions to simply stop voting so that the game is perpetually suspended?

blackfirestorm
FVC123 time outs do happen and that's a fact and the vast majority could have been avoided by having this feature that tonnes of people are and have been asking for for a long time now
Billium248

Yes, this has been brought up a lot.  There have been a lot of suggestions offered, and a lot of ideas tossed around.  It really seems that the simple answer to everyone's problems (and this fix addresses many of them) is to have a "My Vote Chess" page that looks and acts like the "My Online Chess" page.

The games would be sorted by time remaining, with all the ones that it's our turn on top, and their turn on the bottom.  The Status would be "Waiting," "My Move," or "Voted."  This would solve SO many problems, and shouldn't be hard to do either because all of the formatting is already in place.

blackfirestorm
Well said William thanks. I'm not the only one asking for this it is important enough to keep being asked for by many people. How many games need to time out before we get this? The site would be in absolute uproar if online games were timing out due to not having an online chess page so why can't we have one for vote chess?
jedzz

I've never participated in a VoteChess game, so please forgive my ignorance. How does a VoteChess game time out in the first place? Does that mean that in the time control no one on that team voted for a move? If it is, and it happens so often as implied in this thread, that's a sign to me that there needs to be an more accesable way for each player to be reminded of which games need votes.

slvnfernando

Neither have I !

blackfirestorm
Thank you for your comment jedzz vote chess in a large amount of teams is played where people hold discussions then when a decision is reached then they vote as a team. The way it works too often though is you get an alert saying its your turn and once you click on that alert it disappears. If you are playing lots of vote games then its possible to simply forget about it and without this "my vote game page" we are talking about then we won't know till the game has timed out. Do you see what we mean here?
jedzz

"Thank you for your comment jedzz vote chess in a large amount of teams is played where people hold discussions then when a decision is reached then they vote as a team. The way it works too often though is you get an alert saying its your turn and once you click on that alert it disappears. If you are playing lots of vote games then its possible to simply forget about it and without this "my vote game page" we are talking about then we won't know till the game has timed out. Do you see what we mean here?"

I understand that, blackfire. My question was: How does a game time out?

a) No one votes on a move
b) Not enough people vote on a move (ie teams have to meet a quarum)
c) Something else

I looked through the help section, and this was not addressed at all.

TheGrobe

Not to say that this suggestion is necessarily unimportant but rather that the feedback on where it lies in the priority list is a distraction from actually making progress against those priorities.

I agree that this is a worthwhile addition, but does it rank above the recent stability initiatives for live chess, for example?  From what I've seen here, new functionality usually seems to take a priority over polishing existing functionality.  Again, not to say that the latter doesn't get done, but rather that the former is preferentially prioritized.  I ultimately think this is generally a good thing, because drawing in new users, and more importantly enticing people to pay for memberships, is done primarily on the back of feature development, and far less so on the controls for those features.

TheGrobe
jedzz wrote:

I understand that, blackfire. My question was: How does a game time out?

a) No one votes on a move
b) Not enough people vote on a move (ie teams have to meet a quarum)
c) Something else

I looked through the help section, and this was not addressed at all.


It happens when no-one votes.  If one person votes, that will prevent the time-out. 

blackfirestorm
A game times out because no votes get cast in the time allotted
TheGrobe
blackfirestorm666 wrote:
Vote chess may not be important to you kohai but it is to lots of people on this site and its not fair you come in here with the attitude you just shown just because you don't think its important. You may be staff yes and I respect your decision but there was no need to rip my head off in open forum

Kohai was quoting Erik's response to another user who repeatedly demanded organized status updates on all of the suggestions.  Erik's tone was wholly appropriate in response to that user, but does come across a little harsh in response to your comments in this thread (even as pointed and repetitive as they have been).

I think you've misunderstood Kohai's intent (and misattributed the content and it's accompanying tone) in re-posting that quote.  She's simply re-iterating that providing status updates and indications where a suggestion lies in the priorities isn't itself a priority no matter how much we might like to see it.

kohai

A post which i myself removed before blackfirestorm666 posted her response.

knightspawn5
jedzz wrote:

"Thank you for your comment jedzz vote chess in a large amount of teams is played where people hold discussions then when a decision is reached then they vote as a team. The way it works too often though is you get an alert saying its your turn and once you click on that alert it disappears. If you are playing lots of vote games then its possible to simply forget about it and without this "my vote game page" we are talking about then we won't know till the game has timed out. Do you see what we mean here?"

I understand that, blackfire. My question was: How does a game time out?

a) No one votes on a move
b) Not enough people vote on a move (ie teams have to meet a quarum)
c) Something else

I looked through the help section, and this was not addressed at all.


No one on the entire team voted on that game and it timed out, if one move was made by anyone, then it would just continue on.