Pretty much-- like the early chess programs that used the brute force approach and had to consider every single possible move no matter how ludicrous.
Conditional moves (preview)
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Jul 1, 2010
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#43
Didn't someone suggest being able to carry over conditional moves from one game to the next?
Jul 1, 2010
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#45
artfizz wrote: Didn't someone suggest being able to carry over conditional moves from one game to the next?
dap1 in this discussion ... conditional-moves6.
Jul 4, 2010
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#46
Steinar wrote:
Am I the only one who finds it absolutely hilarious that Zhane thinks conditional moves may in some way hurt his game, and that he even lost games and precious rating points because "some punk comes along throws some conditional moves in my face"?
How exactly is it that conditional moves can put anyone at a disadvantage?
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Schachgeek wrote:
And how do conditional moves hurt your game? Please explain.
Got me. I guess your opponent might feel compelled to move more quickly in response to a conditional than they could/should.
I find the notion of conditional moves great fun...making moves in the future in response to a move that hasn't even happened yet.
"No fair...you're using ESP!"
Jul 4, 2010
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#48
Well at least someone finds me amusing.
Still the idea of using the notation in chess is hilarious also, how can you write down a conditional move on paper?
For me there can only be one exception to this con dit ion al moves progress and that is to use it at the end of the game to checkmate your opponent.
You ARE joking now, right? What's your gripe with notation? I also hope you were joking before.
Jul 4, 2010
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#50
Zhane wrote: Still the idea of using the notation in chess is hilarious also, how can you write down a conditional move on paper?
How about with a pencil? Pen? Sharpie felt tip marker? Charcoal stick? Quill and ink? Blood on a pin tip?
Jul 4, 2010
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#51
Phil_A_S wrote:
You ARE joking now, right? What's your gripe with notation? I also hope you were joking before.
actually I'm quite serious about conditional moves I've never pushed that grey button whilst its my opponents turn because they might have more than one way of getting out of check for example.
Jul 4, 2010
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#52
Phil_A_S wrote:
You ARE joking now, right? What's your gripe with notation? I also hope you were joking before.
Zhane wrote: actually I'm quite serious about conditional moves I've never pushed that grey button whilst its my opponents turn because they might have more than one way of getting out of check for example.
You can't press it when it's your turn.
Jul 4, 2010
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#54
artfizz wrote:
Phil_A_S wrote:
You ARE joking now, right? What's your gripe with notation? I also hope you were joking before.
Zhane wrote: actually I'm quite serious about conditional moves I've never pushed that grey button whilst its my opponents turn because they might have more than one way of getting out of check for example.
You can't press it when it's your turn.
I know that but like I said before in my example they could move thier King out of check, block it or take the checking piece, honestly there's a 33.3% chance I'll get that correct.
Jul 4, 2010
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#55
CBA wrote:
As an Englishman, I can rule that conditional moves are bad manners. If you disagree, I will claim your country as my own.
In that case I totally agree. They are bad manners.
Jul 4, 2010
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#56
In Online Chess, you can only make specific conditional moves.
Suppose they are in check on a1 and they have three possible moves: Ka2, Kb1, Kb2.
Your first conditional move may say: "IF Ka2 THEN Qh1."
You can also enter a second conditional move: "IF Kb2 THEN Nd4."
If they actually move Kb1, YOU will be prompted for your move. They won't even be aware that you entered conditional moves.
Jul 4, 2010
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#58
Zhane wrote: thats true artfizz however how does it effect postal chess?
My mistake. I didn't realise we were talking about postal chess.
In that case, write on the outside of the inner envelope containing the conditional move: "Don't open this envelope if your move is Kb1."
CBA wrote:
As an Englishman, I can rule that conditional moves are bad manners. If you disagree, I will claim your country as my own.
On July 4th ?!
Jul 4, 2010
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#60
CBA wrote: As an Englishman, I can rule that conditional moves are bad manners. If you disagree, I will claim your country as my own.
MyCowsCanFly wrote: On July 4th ?!
Finally! A sensible answer to this other topic what-are-we-getting-for-independence-day-or-thereabouts?
By the way, note that in our 1.e4 example where White had to leave 20 conditional moves for Black, if Black responds 1...e5 , he already has to provide 29 conditional moves back to White, and 31 conditional moves would be required for 1...d5 or 1...f5 . It goes up fast!
I see. The idea of placing multiple conditional moves is utter folly! Kinda like trying to solve chess.