Express if you like or do not like the new version of the site

You 2 deserve each other 🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾🐴eyore

No need to get so defensive, name calling never helped anyone. I can insult you too, actually I can do that much better than you but I chose not to because I'm a good person. 

People who are angry insult people because in their anger they cannot think of a better way to handle it, except to start a fight and make the other person feel bad. People who insult can feel backed in, threatened and fearful, making them lash out because they know of no other way to handle themselves in that situation. It is always someone else’s fault. They never see themselves as the problem or the need to take a look at themselves. An immature, angry person can lash out at even the simplest questions. Instead of answering the question they lash out insults after insults. They can almost be ‘talented’ in changing the subject or the direction of the conversation.

Mature people can communicate with others without insulting them. Mature people don’t take everything personal. Mature people can respect another’s opinion, may not ever agree but show professionalism in the conversation and situation.

So the next time you feel the need to insult someone, take you hands of the keyboard and think about a clever way to reply to his comments. Just a piece of advice.

All you do it tell peole to go. Sorry it is you and your ilk who are continually rude to those who disagree with you.  Why can't you understand some of us do not like V3. 

Your post is a good description of your self!

Not again. You seem like a reasonable man in your picture.

Remember, there is always a better way to deal with your anger.

🐑I would keep my head down if i was you Nimzo..Marc with a c likes throwing daggers. It is cold in wales this time of year

Sorry I don't start it but I will retaliate.

Why oh why can't you understand some like it other do not? Neither side is right and neither side is wrong.

But no you have to try and silence those you disagee with.  Very sad.

I have said before. If you mould the 2 versions together we have 1 decent site. Lets face it Marc -V2 is going away soon and we have got to come to terms with that. The elves are working hard to make Christmas for the kiddies..just like the machine which is chess.com is working hard to make V3 work better for its users.

but failing miserably to improve on a cherished V2 original,a bit like ,The 'brotherhood of man'(eurovision winners) going on to surpass past winners Abba,it ain,t gonna happen.

Ladies, please!  Let's not bicker.  Let's get together and boycott until we get a new TT...unlimited, rated or unrated and NOT TIMED or timed !  Such a small request to such a big piece of malfunctioning software design.  Ho hum.  Probably not going to happen because its not as important as changing groups to clubs.

Good spake ,as for'homepage'I haven't found mine yet,just my current games and live chess tv ,and 4 tiny icons that strobe and dance

chungle wrote:

RogerOT wrote:

Spacebux wrote:

@Roger - by obliterating V2 now, they'd be alienating a good chunk of their support stream from my point-of-view.   Not quite a breach of contract, but delivering a lesser service in many ways is not what I call sound business acumen.

...not my business, though.    I'm just a customer hoping to see the same quality of service maintained or improved.

I agree with you,(other than any suggestion of breach of contract). but I seriously think there is no other choice, it has gone too far to turn back.

That's the prevailing wisdom:  That there's no other choice. 

In fact there's always a choice.  The question is whether it is one the owner is willing to take. 

The desktop experience is a gloppy mess.  They've had over two years to "solve" the issue and they haven't.  When I first encountered my new home page I was flabbergasted by how completely thoughtless the implementation was.  I actually got angry with the site/designers because they apparently had absolutely zero clue as to what constituted the home page for a user.  Think about that for a second.  Here was a design supposedly just about ready to be made the primary site and my home page had the exact center eyeball space taken up with advertising products that the site offers to sell users.

The home page of a user is supposed to be the nexus they use for the site:  Information goes there to be displayed and is taken in at a glance and can be acted on.  Notifications are gone.  I have to click on the stupid bell to get to them.  No more glance here or there.  Now I have to scroll to do my work. 

Look, after two years of development they didn't know that when an adminitrator invites new potential members to a team they copy and paste 30 names at a time into the invite box.  That didn't work.  I mean, shake my head, that functionality is BASIC. 

I had to tell erik TWICE what I meant because he misconstrued what I meant by copy and pasting. He initially thought I meant one name at a time! /facepalm.  Oh it's fixed now.  Now I can copy and paste the thirty names in the invite box....whoopie. 

I didn't get paid for that help, and my time is too valuable to do this trouble shooting for FREE. 

If after two years, basic functionality isn't correct because the advisors either don't know or don't care what that basic functonality is then heaven help the site because it is going DOWN.

GIANT BUTTONS !!!!  GIANT BOXES!!!  FUZZZY ICONS!!!

Bah.  Humbug.  Merry Christmas.

I,m guessing but on what I've read so far V2 has a support base of around 80%.on this thread.

Ghandi once said even if your in a minority of one dosen,t mean your not right,

Murphys Law states,

"The race is not always to the fastest or the strongest but thats the way to bet"(paraphrase)

Murphys Golden Rule,whomever has the gold makes the rules,.!

So we V2's have to reconcile ourselves to the upcoming loss of V 2, no matter how much we shout ,Chess. Com is a Business ( poorly managed albeit ) Not a democracy.

And that is fine. When V2 does go people can chose. Until them I  see no reason for the V3 lovers to  moan about those who don't share the love of V£. When my subscriptions exprire and V2 goes I'm off.  I'm not going to bad mouth Eric et al. They make a choice, as will I. I fail to see what in that stance warrants personal attacks. But there we are. Lat time I checked we lived in a land of free speech. It's a shame some fail to understand that.

OK. Lookie here. Let's not discuss what % of people will leave chess.com. Let's just talk about how many people like v3 and how many don't like it.

I posted that simple question in 4 of my groups. 13 people responded. 12 don't like it and 1 does like it. 

OK, that is a small sample size - but it still says something. It says more than some of the bad logic that I read here.

It is really wrong to say that people didn't like v2 when it first came along and therefore v3 is fine. That is foolish. You could ask people if they like anything terrible and when they say no you could argue that people didn't like v2 when it first came out and therefore the terrible thing is actually good. That is dumb, but I have read it here over and over.

The opening post of this thread was basically "do you like or dislike v3". My informal poll says that 12 out of 13 people don't like v3. You can argue statistics that poke holes in that poll, but I haven't seen a more reliable poll that says people do like v3. I see statements that "people didn't like v2 at one time" or that "since we force people to log into v3, now 85% of people are using v3". My poll is more to the point of the opening question.

I think most users do not like v3. There is good reason for me to think that. 

A blind man would see that,alright. but our opinions weren,t asked for before to help engineer this excuse for an upgrade,If we had I,m sure the layout would have remained intact with a few extra bells and whistles thrown in .This is like letting painters in to your house ,returning to find two walls knocked down

Once I hired a man to paint a friend's house, then I discovered he painted all the transparent electric lamps in a pale white color, as well as the telephone on the wall beside the front door, it looked like  built on the wall, all the locks on the doors were painted some with the keys on them, and all the heaters as well... then he apologised to me he had a blind man who helped him,  fortunately he didn't paint the window panes... things happen, the wife of my friend liked it as an artistic rarity and they all lived happily ever after  

I don't see that much difference in the layouts. Navigation-wise I am able to find everything I need easily (after a couple of sessions clicking around the new version to see what was different), plus there are some nice new features. So answering the OP, I like the new version of the site.

If you read that in my statements, then maybe reread. I didn't make that logical leap. v3 will be fine, because the vast majority of it works and includes the vast majority of what was in v2. Speed will improve, bugs will get fixed, visuals can and likely will change in the future.

What I said was that the level of dislike of the 2012 change, which is essentially the v2 of today, was at a similar level as what is seen with the v3 change. 4 years later and people want to keep it. Yeah, some people left; it will happen this time too. But the site continued to grow and gather new members, along with new premium members. v3 will too.

In general, most people don't like change. Given a chance, they will keep the old until there is no other choice. As some others in this topic that didn't like v3 at first, they moved over and tried it. Some now like it; some don't.

I'm getting nostalgic for the v2 switchover.  At least that time the previous version was gone and things got to move on more quickly 

That analogy works if you are renting and the owners hired the painters .... maybe.

Also, there are millions of members. Not all of them like the same design choices you would, or that erik would, etc. There are members that don't really care for the v2 design.

Polling the user base is going to give thousands of differeing ideas and whatever was chosen would still be disliked by groups of other members. 

Most of the major features still exist. The core of what makes Chess.com what it is, still is in v3.

Vote for your favorite Chess.com version.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/which-version-of-chess-com-do-you-like-v3-or-v2-vote-now