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Martin_Stahl
Bellerophontis wrote:

Do you mean that staff members can vote more than once???!!

i was suspecting something like this actually

how many times did you vote Martin ?!?!

 

 

I only voted once but I can see, without trying, that it is trivial to do it more than once happy.png

Bellerophontis
Martin_Stahl wrote:
 

I only voted once but I can see, without trying, that it is trivial to do it more than once

Do you mean that staff members can vote more than once???!!

i was suspecting something like this actuallymeh.png because after v2 took the 50 members lead in the first 2 days from then on the number 50  remains steady instead of increasing rapidly !?!

 After 300 votes it is obvious V2 supporters are more than 50% 

http://www.strawpoll.me/11933585

monkeywithgun

V3 is fine.  I think most of these whiners just need to upgrade whatever the hell they're using it on.  I have no problems, nothing but pleasure using it.  KUDOS to the development team.  Windows XP isn't even supported by MS anymore, don't waste your time making it work there, or on Vista either.

razzarainbow

V3 - v -V2 voting 'thread'

https//www.chess.com/forum/view/general/v3-v-v2

Bellerophontis

There's not any poll there mate, it is just another thread 

As far as monkeywithguns i can only tell that V3 supporters sometimes and not rarely seem to lack chess quality

Martin_Stahl
Spacebux wrote:
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Show me an example of a major site that completely revamped their User Interface and did well.

As was pointed out in another site, the #s of logins in V3 is skewed at the moment.  The success of this site has shifted---away from online user-driven content.  That was by design.  There is no doubt in my mind, that Erik believes the success of this site is in 'clicks', not user driven content.

He'll find out the hard way...and probably blame the wrong reason for its demise on the way down.

 


The success of the site is chess, chess content, and chess learning resources. A lot of that content is member generated but the facilities for the creation of that content exists and all the chess related features still exist, with more added.

 

As to redesigns, FB has done quite a few of them over the years. The overarching design is similar but there have been changes. Just a couple:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/08/technology/facebook-shows-off-redesign.html

http://mashable.com/2014/03/10/facebook-redesign-pages/#LnNl_cK1Laq3

 

I know I'm not a design guru but you can't honestly claim that no successful site has redesigned and done as well or better than they did before the redesign.

 

Heck, the 2012 v2 redesign is one example. You can argue all you want that the design differences weren't that different but just looking at the posts from that time period show that a lot of members disliked them. Chess.com obviously grew after that (in a very similar parallel to this one).

Bellerophontis

is it true that the owners of chess com the last years own another sight which is connected with gambling?

if it is true then it might be an answer of how V3 is a downgrade in real chess issues of V2  like game explorer and all the rest we have analysed in the past

Martin_Stahl
Bellerophontis wrote:

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As far as monkeywithguns i can only tell that V3 supporters sometimes and not rarely seem to lack chess quality

 

Was that really called for?

Martin_Stahl
Bellerophontis wrote:

is it true that the owners of chess com the last years own another sight which is connected with gambling ?

if it is true then it might be an answer of how V3 is a downgrade in real chess issues of V2  like game explorer and all the rest we have analysed in the past

 

There is a least one sister site, not including ChessKid. It is a non-chess related game website. The link is in the Share menu and that site has a couple of different URLs as I recall.

golferjerr

I like it, change in this case is good.

Martin_Stahl
richie_and_oprah wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Bellerophontis wrote:

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As far as monkeywithguns i can only tell that V3 supporters sometimes and not rarely seem to lack chess quality

 

Was that really called for?

Yes.  It is spot on.

 

Wow, OK then. There are plenty on either side of the discussion that have similar "chess quality" so I can't see how making that comment really helps anything.  Of course, it isn't the first or last time ad hominems will be used to try and win something that isn't winnable (since much of this is subjective).

Shippen

Brexit Chexit

Bellerophontis

1)   Martin how many times did you vote today?

2) when i spoke about quality i mean in chess conversation and attitute

3) I have heard of a gambling site connected with world poker that belongs the last 3 yeras to the owners of chess com

is this the reason that they don't care about the 55% and more?

gambit-man
Bellerophontis wrote:

is it true that the owners of chess com the last years own another sight which is connected with gambling?

...named after me... gambit.com

Martin_Stahl

1. I voted in that poll one time. It was on the first day it was posted. I have already said I only voted once. How many times have you voted? 

 

2. Your comment certainly doesn't read that way. Though, if that is what you meant, have you actually checked the content of every poster that has a pro-v3 stance. Not that it really matters to the discussion of site preference meh.png

 

3. I don't know for sure. I know a couple of the URLs to the site I'm aware of. Also not sure how it has any bearing on the discussion. 

 

And if @erik didn't care, v2 would have been deleted already.

 

 

 

Bellerophontis

i didn't say anything about voting many times

you said that

and i guess only the members of the staff can vote many times since you said that

cause i'd like to know what do you mean by telling this inappropriate and rude thing to me 

I mean which is this way you clearly know of voting many times?  Explain to us, how someone can vote many times?

cause i don't really get you

you have written on 3033 "I can't tell how many staff voted there or how many people voted more than once (which would be trivial to do). Plus, staff has metrics too."  

so please explain to us, how someone can vote many times?

Martin_Stahl
Bellerophontis wrote:

i didn't say anything about voting many times

you said that

and i guess only the members of the staff can vote many times since you said that

cause i'd like to know what do you mean by telling this inappropriate and rude thing to me 

I mean which is this way you clearly know of voting many times?  Explain to us, how someone can vote many times?

cause i don't really get you

 

Are we experiencing a language barrier here?

 

I said voting multiple times is trivially possible. It doesn't matter if a member is staff or not. That doesn't mean anyone has done so, though I think it is likely some have, for both options.

 

I don't think you have done so, I just found it curious that it is impacting you so much. Again, maybe that is due to a nuance of language.

 

As to explaining how it possible, it only takes a little knowledge to figure it out. For those unaware, I really don't think giving assistance is needed.

Spacebux

Martin_Stahl wrote:

Bellerophontis wrote:

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As far as monkeywithguns i can only tell that V3 supporters sometimes and not rarely seem to lack chess quality

 

Was that really called for?

..and not a word, Martin, when he labels us antagonists as 'whiners'??? One-sided much?

Bellerophontis

   this explains why the 50 members differrence from the first 36 hours is keeping steady instead of increasing rapidly from then on, which was the statistically expected

if you have rigged the ballot then we can speak about a coupe d'etat of v3 small number supporters in chess,com  who want to impose V3 on the other  vast majority

razzarainbow

bellerphontis stated 'No Poll Here ,just a thread ,who am I to argue with a beller ,

Bellerophontis wrote:

There's not any poll there mate, it is just another thread 

As far as monkeywithguns i can only tell that V3 supporters sometimes and not rarely seem to lack chess quality

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