Express if you like or do not like the new version of the site

Martin_Stahl wrote:

So, what is the responsive way to handle unknown file sizes? Tile, stretch, float? I think the method is somewhat subjective.

v2 just tiles the images. My guess they decided that wasn't the best so went with making all of them the same size (not sure if that also impacts the mobile website version or all resolutions).

And I'm pretty sure that the site has experienced developers. Design choices doesn't equate to not knowing how to do something.

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Version two offered the choice of what to do in terms of tiling or scaling. Version three just institutes the arbitrary choice of the designers. And I doubt that they were/are experienced. I would categorize them as arrogant and dismissive of anything and everything that used to comprise the site.

So when you assert that the programmers know what they're doing I can equally assert that they don't. :)

At this point, I'm tired of this conversation. 

Either pull the plug on V2 or don't.  We've given the site operators AMPLE feedback on what's wrong (and what's right) about V3.  Erik's got the ultimate decision to make; and once he's made his, I---like other paying members---will make mine.

I'm tired of the petulant attitude many protagonists here have for the people who have spent time and effort (not to just denounce and nay-say) in telling the developers what's deficient with V3.  The Pro-V3 Propaganda Machine doesn't need to run 24/7.  I'm not here to run a political coup.  Neither is anyone else giving feedback.  There's absolutely no need for LABELs--(haters gonna hate, people resistant to change, narrow-mindedness, and so on).  Fine, pull the plug on V2 already!  See what happens with my paid membership here.

Enough of the asinine behavior.  For over eight months now I've been giving Erik and others here constructive feedback on what's wrong with V3.  At nearly every point, someone has taken the time to throw a slur or derision in my general direction---some more demure than others.  I've seen countless examples of others being slammed against the wall for doing the same here and in other forums.  Martin, I'm sure you're a wonderful human being, but I find it extremely rare that you actually side with one of the posters highlighting a deficiency with V3.  I know you're on the STAFF-side of things (even though you proclaim you're not officially staff)---that doesn't mean every item a negative post of V3 comes up, you need to be front-&-center rebuking the claim.  Farbeit for you and others in the Pro-V3 Progoganda Team to respond with, "You know, that's a good suggestion; I'll see if we can get that thrown in to the code revision schedule before we go live"... but, that's exactly the kind of response that would engender GOOD feelings to all.  A majority of the time we get labels thrown at us: haters, resistant to change, narrow-minded slobs, et. al.

I'm not picking on you personally, Martin, but you respond more often than others ... ok, so, yes, I am picking on  you.  Nevermind.

Anyway, I'm done here.  Pull the plug or don't.  At this point, I'm throwing my hands in the air and leaving it to Erik to make a command decision.  Then, I will make my vote with my wallet.

Seconded.

I can't make decisions for what does or doesn't happen in v3. I feel there are some deficiencies with v3 but not one of them makes the site unusable, at least on any device I have used it on.

As to how often I have posted, I just try to answer questions with the information I know of or have read about. If someone asks something specific or says they don't like that X is missing, I point it out if that feature does exist or not in v3.

Not every suggestion that gets made is going to make the cut for erik and the development staff. Sometimes there are even differing suggestions on what to do with the exact same feature, including liking the way v3 is doing it right now.

I understand that people don't like some aspects of v3. Some don't like it all. Others like it and would rather see v2 gone. There will be no way to please everyone, even keeping v2 wouldn't do that. As far as I know v2 will be around for a while longer still. Short of some catastrophe, I would say it will likely be here trough the end of the year.

When I say they know what they are doing I meant in in the manner that they implemented a specific design and I can be pretty sure the design that was implemented was one specified by erik and the team. Yes, giving the choice of layout is more flexible and more in line with v2 (I guess, I never messed with it) but just because they didn't implement those options, doesn't mean they don't know what they are doing from a coding standpoint

And design is pretty subjective.

Love it.

 "Keep on scrolling"  

Day Five.  I discover that the "flip board" option is no longer available in the Daily Chess Analysis Board.  How much of a coding problem was that?   I suppose I should be grateful that the Analysis Board is still available.

Flip board is still there. I just checked. It is in the same place the flip board is on other boards -- upper-right corner of the board, below the resize. Have to hover your cursor over it to see it.

don't you see?

It's hidden, you have to hover your cursor over it to discover that, if you ever imagine to look for that in the upper right corner

they want to harrass you, just to spend your time there lost in their abyss 

Folks remain ALL CONSTANTLY tuned to V2 continuously!  All together we can win!

never try V3 again !

It's the only way to listen to us and withdraw it forever !

I just did a lot of hovering.  I didn't find "flip board" or "resize" for that matter.  Someone is going to have to grab me by the back of my neck & stick my nose in it.

I'll be thankin' you for that service when I find it.

I'm on Firefox 50 and don't see it, have to use Chrome  (which I'd rather not do) if I want to flip...ridiculous!

Change is always a pain.  Whether the pain is worthwhile depends on the benefit of change.  Overall, I do like the new site and I find the amount of change-pain to be small.

Firefox 51 shows the flip board. Make sure to hover over the resize icon first; that is the hot spot. Still need to test on my home computer but I never had an issue before with it.

My machine shows Firefox 50 being the latest...I know HOW to hover over the icon, but I repeat, it is NOT available on my board.

I went to a Daily Chess game I played and opened the self-analysis board.  Is that what you are talking about?  I found two places to flip the board.

edit: Firefox 51.0b1 (32-bit)

Laptop w/ Windows 8.1. Firefox 50.  No Hover, No Icons appear beneath the Resize Icon.

Firefox 51?  I just clicked the hamburger menu -> question mark -> about Firefox and was notified that the up to date version is 50 not 51. 

You know, design isn't actually subjective when it comes to programatic interfaces.  There are principles involved, certificates to be earned, standards to adhere to.  I hazard that little regard was given to USABILITY as a design criteria.  Pure and unadulterated chrome    in a User Interface Design means that it was designed without regard to the functions that users would put to that interface.  In my estimation then, the designers (Erik and his team) failed utterly at what they were attempting to do.  That last sentence, that is subjective.

Firefox 51.0b1 (32-bit)