Fair play: Reporting insults proper?

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bigpoison

"wisdom in crowds"

Man! that killed me.  Nothin' like a wise mob to get shit squared away.

ilikeflags

i only insult people who deserve it

FearlessPawns

I don't see why insulting an opponent with no reason it's more acceptable than letting time pass along wihtout moving. If you do so, an alert shows up saying your action was noticed and could be punished. If that is the case in order to protect fair play looks reasonable to me

So it's not ok to make people waste time but you can insult your opponent and that's fine.

ictavera
berrychess wrote:

I don't see why insulting an opponent with no reason it's more acceptable than letting time pass along wihtout moving. If you do so, an alert shows up saying your action was noticed and could be punished. If that is the case in order to protect fair play looks reasonable to me

So it's not ok to make people waste time but you can insult your opponent and that's fine.

Personally, yes. I don't care if someone insults me, as I won't get offended.

On other side, as someone pointed out, if you want to penalize someone who insults other players, you have to do it manually and with so many player this takes a lot of human resources.

ilikeflags

the people who say they don't care, actually DO care.

ilikeflags

i certainly don't care.

DippinChicken
Berder wrote:
 

Everyone, universally, has an inherent right to free speech and free thought.  In some societies this right is infringed, but you still have it by virtue of being a thinking, concious human being, just like you have a right not to be murdered or raped even if you live in a lawless society.  It's a damn shame that in some places powerful interests have managed to deny the exercise of these rights to the people.

Ya but... this is a website on the internet, owned and operated by someone.  It's not a union or country man.. it's just chess.com ... in the forum... this isn't a civil rights rally.

That being said, there are WAY too many pansies on here, sensitive to the littlest things.  "Someone called me a bad name, I want them banned!"  Sounds like something I'd expect to hear in grade school.  As already mentioned by the MOD... if you don't like it, just disable chat or block them.  As simple as that.

Yohan_Saboba

Back to the original point, BerryChess... I have a forum topic with some suggestions for a reporting "hotline" here:

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/the-fight-against-inconsideration

bemcertinho

All of us respect free speech, I'm sure of that. The definition of free speech as the right to offending others is a distinct aspect. I wrote a private message to another member, even before this topic got open, showing not an astonishment of my part, but a very simple concern: how these so agressive people may know that, at the other side of their posts, a kid is not reading such amount of insults, maybe suffering? Absolute anonimity favours possibilities of a child being among us: kids with their PCs are all around. The invoked universal right to offend, under the protection of the free speech, must include the right to offend kids, I suppose. Comparing to the value of liberty, offending kids is a very small disturbance, shall be the counter argument, I also suppose. May this be brave? May this be wise? Are we seeing things clearly? I'm glad to see Scottrf also called attention to the same aspect, here in this topic: the swarm of kids around chess.com. And if everyone really never needed to offend no one? And if everyone had the liberty of not being offended? Liberties may prove conflicting sometimes.

sftac

An eye for an eye, leads to a community of blind people. 

But would that be such a bad thing?  Once everyone's lost their vision, there'd be less to fight about.

sftac

ilikeflags

i respect no speech

learningthemoves

Verbal assault is abuse and shouldn't go unchecked.

None of those spineless little coward-weasels who have attempted to insult me via the chatbox would for a second even consider it face to face.

None of them used a real name on their profile or a real picture for their avatar either.

If they didn't have the courage to even reveal who they are, they certainly lack the ability to back any of it up too.

If you don't use your real name or face and have the stupidity to insult me, you get zero respect from me.

Win or lose, sportsmanship is just as much a mark of your value as your performance and those who practice good sportmanship will enjoy the rewards of it.

Character and integrity are important.

Don't claim to be intelligent if you can't even muster the smarts to treat your fellow human beings with dignity.

bigpoison

huh?

bigpoison

"None of those spineless little coward-weasels who have attempted to insult me via the chatbox would for a second even consider it face to face."

You're very scary.

ozzie_c_cobblepot
bigpoison wrote:

"None of those spineless little coward-weasels who have attempted to insult me via the chatbox would for a second even consider it face to face."

You're very scary.

Honestly, he's probably right.

bigpoison

I fail to see the difference between the two tough-guy acts.

OldHastonian
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:
bigpoison wrote:

"None of those spineless little coward-weasels who have attempted to insult me via the chatbox would for a second even consider it face to face."

You're very scary.

Honestly, he's probably right.

...in which case, commiserations for being born as Ozzie Cobblepot.

RichEncreamie

Or Chess.com could have the option to disable the chat window for those who get easily offended.  I agree that Chess.com should have the right to filter content but I could see the technical difficulties in that for the random match ups.  All those defending free speech here should go pick a better fight.  We need you elsewhere.  Free speech should be world wide, but it is the individual who gets arrested or punished by their government for offending a political leader or expressing distate in that government who should be defended.  Ten years in jail for writing a letter or killed for destroying your own property.  Please help fight those battles.

ozzie_c_cobblepot

Disabling chat and blocking users are two tools available to the content recipient. This works well for the so-called "easily offended" users.

One could define "easily offended" as those people in the abuse graph who report many users who have a low number of total incoming reports.

One could define "truly abusive" as those people in the abuse graph who have many users reporting them, and especially from those people who have a low number of outgoing reports.

So relying only on the disable chat and blocking ignores half the problem.

TheGrobe
bigpoison wrote:

"None of those spineless little coward-weasels who have attempted to insult me via the chatbox would for a second even consider it face to face."

You're very scary.

Oh, that's easy:  The first guy's an internet tough guy to someone's face, the second is an internet tough guy to a large audience and behind the back of the first guy.