Flipping the board

There is NO connection between flipping and cheating.

Everyone else on this site can flip - so there must be something so far unexplained in your setup.

1. Have you tried resizing the Analysis Board window? You're missing a whole bunch of controls - not just Flip Board. (If I make the Analysis Board window narrower, the controls go below the board and I have to scroll down to see them.)

2. Are you accessing chess.com from a PC? (A mobile device may have a more restricted interface)

3. Which browser are you using?

Using an IMac running 10.5.8.

I use Firefox usually, but the same situation happens in Chrome and Opera.

However, I just downloaded the newest version of Opera, and the analysis board does not open at all, now.

I never use Safari because it is too slow. I tried using it as  an experiment to see if I could report back with the most complete answer possible, but I gave up -- it wouldn't load at all so I could even try to get to the correct location.

Are we on the same page here? The analysis board I want to flip and which does not flip is only reached once you are inside a master's game -- reached from already being on the Explore page. So you look at Pedro Carlos v. Jose Morphy, e.g., and see an alternative line you want to explore, perhaps from a book, open the analysis board and it will  not flip.

I never implied that flipping = cheating and thus it was restricted.  Anybody can flip their analysis board.  What I said was that if I was writing an algorhthim to spot cheaters, I would look at the prevelance of AB flipping vs wins with black as a possible input parameter, especially as an initial sorting device.

You're right there's no flip on that analysis board, and where is the flip in Live Chess? I miss it when I watch other´s games.

No, we're not on the same page yet!

I now get it that you're not starting from one of your games.

When I go ... LEARN -> Openings -> Game Explorer. With the DB set at Master Games. I see a Flip Board option.

If I drill down, I can still se Flip Board option.

If I click on EXPLORE THIS OPENING or look at a particular game, I can always see a Flip Board option!

Could you describe in detail the steps you take to reach a NO FLIP BOARD scenario?

OMG

http://www.chess.com/explorer/analysis.html?id=1025300

Could you describe in detail the steps you take to reach a NO FLIP BOARD scenario?

Which command menu do you use on the chess.com website? Which dropdown item do you then click on? What do you click on next? And so on.

Go to the Opening Explorer. Enter in 5 moves of your choice. Then enter moves that are less common, but still in the Opening Explorer. Once you see any move option that is has been played exactly once, then click on it. Then click on the link to the single Master's Game. You should now be at a page with a single Master's Game on it, and can click through the moves or whatever. Now click on Analyze, to enter variations. Bingo.

Learn>Game Explorer>Select a game and there you have it.

Thanks SensFan33 (and cemc).

You can flip the board in Game Explorer - right up the point where you open the Analysis Board - but you can't flip the Analysis Board. I finally see that situation.

Interestingly, though: immediately before the Analysis Board is displayed in its final state, it gets displayed in a format WITH THE CONTROLS (including Flip Board) present. Did you notice that?

Interesting. I'm not seeing that.

Thanks chaps.

There for awhile I thought I was going nucking futz, and I was the only one who saw it.

Glad me beer damage brain cells no never.

Uh oh; someone else with dain bramage .

Well, Mr. Guitarzan, if that really IS your real name, would anyone with a normal brain spend as much time on chess as I do? Uh? Answer me that!

See you can't. It's unpossible! (A tip of the hat to Ralph Wiggins.)

;-)

Here is what I want next. When I get into the Explore area and start working with a game between two masters, could we have the little yellow box that let's you follow along what move is happening when? Or a display of the moves in vertical columns  as it appears in the analysis display? I can't follow along in my book of commentary very easily.

I have trouble enough following conversations with my wife let alone the chess moves the masters make.

God knows after all these years with her, I am more worried about following the chess games.

;-)

Phillip6Esq,

It's all right, you can just call me Guitarzan .

BTW, put more effort into your relationship w/ your wife. Much more satisfying in the long run than becoming a chess wizard. 22 years and still going strong here!

Also twenty-two for us, on, on, someday this summer. Some time this summer it will be 22. It was summer, I remember that -- hotter than hell. Maybe August?

Her father married us. Nonetheless I still speak to him when required.

God bless you, Phillip6Esq! (Even though, you are a down-stater ).

Dear Mr. Artfizz:

Start on the chess.com home page and look for the column entitled "Learn." That word gives access to a pulldown type submenu. On that submenue, look for "Openings."

Under "Openings" there should be a link to "Game Explorer." Clicking on that item, "Game Explorer", should take you to a page with the URL of:

http://www.chess.com/explorer/index.html

On the page "Game Explorer" pick an entry by first opening move, for simplicity's sake, I suggest an opening with only five entries, 1. Na3, the very last one in the column of entries.

Clicking on that link will take you to a page displaying with the following URL

http://www.chess.com/games/results.html?f=43000231&t=1

On this page there will appear the names of the players and the years played of the five games in question. Click on the first game, a game played between Grund Holger vs Wilhelmi Christian 1996. Select that game.

You should now see this URL:

http://www.chess.com/games/view.html?id=767041

Look to the right under the box of moves. Look for the button entitled "Anaylsis Board." Click on it.

This will take you to a page with this URL: http://www.chess.com/games/view.html?id=767041

When this opens, I, and I would presume you, should see an image that looks like this: