Rating System for "Daily Puzzle" Posts

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Avatar of El_Greco111

Good idea!

Avatar of freelunch

basically, i think the choice is between a human based rating (where people give points, such as on social media "like", "dislike") or a computer generated rating system (cf. one word comments are downgraded; comments with board inserted are upgraded etc). or a combination of both. I think the latter system will be best. But it may require some programming to get it working right. [I thought too of a way to rank posts from 'esteemed commenters' get higher ratings, but then I realised this needs a kind of reference point, or it would be useless]

On the whole, I am in favour. SOmetimes I see a puzzle and think: 'hm, is this correct? how about move X? And then I have to wade through pages of comments I do not seek for a possible answetr to my question. (Although sometimes I too post a short comment as encouragement or discouragement to staff on the the level of the puzzle)

Avatar of chessleogeo
IncrediBill wrote:

Re:  Suggested Programming Change for the Daily Puzzle

Dear Chess.com,

You have probably noticed in the Posts of the Daily Puzzle’s that there have been a number of people who post messages like, “First” or “Second” and other such nonsensical messages that clutter up the pages.  These are generally followed up by people posting their frustration and complaints about the people who do this.

May I suggest that you create a “Rating” system for the messages that people post.  It could be a “Star” system where posts could be ranked by the readers from one to five stars.  You could then create a page that appears directly after the puzzle itself, where you could gather together the highest ranked posts.

This would greatly improve the Daily Puzzles.   People who are genuinely interested in discussing the puzzle, or looking for explanations to the puzzle, would know where to find the best answers, because they will have been pre-screened by the readers themselves.  It would save everyone the trouble of having to sift through pages and pages of posts to try and find the answers to their questions.

I am sure that there are other ways or methods that the above concept could be carried out or applied.  The above idea is something just off the top of my head.   But I think you get the idea of what is trying to be achieved.

Thanks for all your hard work.  Keep it up.


I think that that would be nice beecaue lots of people do write "first" or "second" instead of talking about the puzzle

Avatar of MrUnorthodox

If anything, maybe make three different threads: one for analyses, one for commenting on difficulty, and one for useless spam like "first" posts. Anything not pertaining to the correct thread would result in deletion. It really wouldn't be all too different from the concept used in vote chess, where you have both a team chat and a public chat. And, to avoid still dealing with the "first" post issues, the spam chat would likely have to be made as the default so that the stupidity will be placed in the correct area.

Just an idea.

Avatar of WellRounded
kskid wrote:

if the comment is none chess related it should just be deleted


QFT.  I'd say this is the way to go, get some mods in here and lets start deleting no content posts.  I presented my last idea as just a brainstorming thing, but I've been a member of several forums and been a mod, this is the only real way to deal w/ the problem.

Avatar of Burke

 How about having little boxes below the puzzle. One will say "First" and one will say "Nice" and you can click one or both. Then it will show a total of all the people who think they're first and a total of all the people who think the puzzle is "Nice".  I guess you could add a box that says "Easy" and one that says "Easy peasy".

Avatar of cyrooski

my time is too important to sift thru "nice" and "first" to find out what makes a particular daily puzzle tick.

 

Cyrus

Avatar of Burke
cyrooski wrote:

my time is too important to sift thru "nice" and "first" to find out what makes a particular daily puzzle tick.

 

Cyrus


  My point exactly. I guess my sarcasm wasn't too obvious. Sorry.

Avatar of Robert-Paulson

agree, it seems obvious when you look at how it works on sites like reddit and youtube. Well played.

Avatar of PepePulmopnes
I agree with using a simple "Like" vote system. Click "Like" if you like the comment. Place the top four comments, perhaps, at the very top in their own section. Below that, all other comments appear in descending chronological order (the most recent at the top). If ALL comments were sorted by their "Like" vote count, then the comments that are leading the voting early on are always more likely to get MORE votes since they are on top and some really good comments added later in the day will have even less of a chance of rising to the top.
Avatar of deo

When I read through, I thought the idea was to earn rating points in solving puzzles just like tempo.com does, and I still think it would be my suggestion. To solve the problem of every kind of nonsensical postings, you would have every puzzle solver's name appear with his/her rating points, then you would know how "first or slow, or sunday yet" it has been.

Avatar of WickedGamesWePlay

I didn't have time to read all the replies here, however I must point out as probably others have that merely getting chess.com to post the last post first would eliminate that ridiculousness and we could always see the most recent post to boot.

Avatar of WindyHippo

Personally, I don't like it. Rating systems on other websites seem to have caused people to comment with teh goal of receiving a high rating rather than being honest. The comment board is often littered with tired comments that cater to the masses. I'm not sure that I'm effectively exspressing what I want to say here....I just don't want to see people jockying for the highest rated comment.

 

I suggest a comprimise. Maintain the current system, but allow for the rating system. Accomplish this by allowing people to select what they want to see through a drop down menu.

Avatar of the_dark_raider

I think this might not work so well...

Obviously there are a lot of screwballs that post random krud (the ones that go like, so far down you have to scroll for five minutes to reach the end and it says "teehee" or whatever) and it ticks people off (sometimes me also), but if there's to be a rating system, think about it. Since there are that many screwballs that post junk, and if there's to be a star system like incredible suggested, the people that post junk would probably rate their comments to the top and rate other peoples comments down to the bottom, just for the heck of it. Then we might as well not have the new system but just keep the original. (Of course, if this problem can be taken care of disregard everything I just said).

I don't want anybody to think I'm on their side, I really don't care what happens. Just don't get rid of the daily puzzle! I'm just pointing something out.

Good luck (To whom it may concern).

Avatar of ibreeeze

i would like to hear one of the staff opinion on that, to know of we have to continue discussing that topic or chess.com already have a good reason for not doing this rating system for comments... :)

I hope that one of the staff would comment, thank you:) 

Avatar of kero_the_best

you are amazing bro .... i liked your analysis soooooo much .. iam a new member to chess.com .. and i noticed your comments on the first page having fully understandable analysis of how the buzzle goes ... and it was greatly helpful for me and for every one else .... keep on bro .. this is awesome ;)

Avatar of DingoLoco

Sounds really good, and I love some of the ideas, but please, don´t make this Forum too serious. I love to learn, and I love comments like yours IncrediBill, they help me a lot most of the times, but a forum it´s also about sharing, and it´s nothing wrong on giving your opinion about the puzzle, if it was easy or difficult, if you liked or not, like Dufferps says on comment #18 . Of course, the "First" and "second" comments should be deleted by some kind of "moderator"... but "easy" or "good one" are just opinions, and having a look of them would be interesting for chess.com staff, to have an idea of the avarage level, and what most of the users like... Anyway, this is only my point of view,  thanks again for your explantions on the puzzles, and for this try of doing the chess experience better for everyone. Good Luck!

Avatar of LightlySaltedNutz

Excellent idea... From a coding standpoint, the easiest way to implement it would be to add a simple up/down vote and the ability to sort based on either "oldest to newest", "newest to oldest" or "highest to lowest rating".

This shouldn't be a huge lift for a professional developer.  

Avatar of paulified22

it seems every one dislike's the " easy" " first" or post's of this nature but how to stop it would be near impossible in my opinion,just deal with the people who have nothing better to say,and go on with daily puzzle,it's not the only thing Chess.Com,has to offer to it's members,there will allway's be those few who don't really care what they post about daily puzzle no matter what you do,just my opinion

Avatar of zarzar555

I love your idea incredibill! Maybe we could also have ranks like: Pawn, Knight, etc. But would only get exp from the amount of good posts they created and level up!