If you are not willing to wait 29 minuts for a move, just play another time controls like 10 min or so... Don't start games with times that you can not afford to waste... Years ago while I was playing on yahoo, there was a button 1 min each move... Even this did not stop trolls from trolling...
There ought to be an "pay attention" button
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Jan 29, 2014
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#43
yeah I'm not in favour of losing on time when there's still time on my clock. I understand the issue but can't see a sensible way around it. I could, after all, be having a little snooze ...
http://metro.co.uk/2009/09/04/drunk-chess-grandmaster-falls-asleep-at-board-391122/
notmtwain wrote:
chessph wrote:
Stupid idea. Would you do that during an OTB game?
You wouldn't have to. You could see if they were still at the board.
Plus, most tournaments do enforce some sort of penalties against people who forfeit without notice.
Actually, players are allowed to leave the table (e.g., to go to the bathroom, get a drink). Once, during a tournament, my opponent left for more than 30 minutes, and I was getting impatient. There is actually a rule about how long a player can leave the table for, but I didn't know the rule and wasn't sure if I should call the director. Finally, the player returned and then spent another thirty minutes thinking about his move. At the time, I was up 2 minor pieces and a pawn. Because I had to wait so long, I was frustrated and proceeded to make my next 8 moves quickly without thinking (since I thought I had already worked out the entire line in my head while waiting for him to move). Unfortunately, on the 8th move, I made a terrible blunder and dropped my queen, and proceeded to lose the game!
I actually do not agree with the suggestion of the OP. It is often the case that I might have to leave my computer for 10 or 15 minutes to take care of some minor "emergency" or my kids fighting or what not. This does not mean I am abandoning the game, and I should not forfeit just because I am using my allotted time. If you start a 30 minute match, then you should be prepared to invest 1 hour, even if that includes "wasted" time waiting for the other fellow to move.
GreenCastleBlock wrote:
Every other ICS solves this problem quite neatly by allowing players to abort a game on the first move without penalty.
Chess.com was foolish when it tried to punish players for aborting. Made more problems than it fixed, and made games far more annoying in general.
Jan 29, 2014
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#47
pt22064 wrote:
notmtwain wrote:
chessph wrote:
Stupid idea. Would you do that during an OTB game?
You wouldn't have to. You could see if they were still at the board.
Plus, most tournaments do enforce some sort of penalties against people who forfeit without notice.
Actually, players are allowed to leave the table (e.g., to go to the bathroom, get a drink). Once, during a tournament, my opponent left for more than 30 minutes, and I was getting impatient. There is actually a rule about how long a player can leave the table for, but I didn't know the rule and wasn't sure if I should call the director. Finally, the player returned and then spent another thirty minutes thinking about his move. At the time, I was up 2 minor pieces and a pawn. Because I had to wait so long, I was frustrated and proceeded to make my next 8 moves quickly without thinking (since I thought I had already worked out the entire line in my head while waiting for him to move). Unfortunately, on the 8th move, I made a terrible blunder and dropped my queen, and proceeded to lose the game!
Exactly. During OTB, you are not going to pound on the washroom door telling your opponent to hurry the hell up if he is on the toilet with the shats. If you are not willing to wait 30 or so minutes, then don't play.
Terrible idea. I dont trust this community to have such an annoying feature. I say if someone disconnects they get 90s to rejoin. When they come back they lose half of their time. if they disconnect again they get to use whatever time they had left after the first one to reconnect again. Then they lose half their time again.
not liking it. reason is that pretend your opponent is their - all the way until their time runs out; they would still get a time out loss, and you would get the win.
I don't think their is an issue unless you are winning, and you want to just crush your oppenent; if that is the case I say just wait, there is no point is just trying to win without enjoy the tactics of the game.
However, just an opinion. I just don't think their is enough justification two change things around regarding the timer. Its good how it is; it even warns the player for abandoning; what more can you ask for.
Jan 29, 2014
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#50
But what if somebody's computer crashes and you press the button?
Personally I only need about a minute to decide when its a hard situation; but then what is the point of the time clock in general if you cannot take your time to think. Sometimes I have less than one minute left, and my oppenent has 3 or 4 minutes left, and I end up finding a way to win.
I think it should stay as it is, I can always adapt to the changes or find another website. One time I was thinking of my next move and through chat my oppenent was rushing me, kept on saying to "hurry" up... seriously? why would he even make that a big deal if he gets the win if I run out of time.
I want my time to think, to play chess, not to make stupid moves due to lack of time.
I personally know a guy (rated 1800 uscf) who in a lost position would stall until he had about 5 minutes left. Because then he was in time trouble sometimes his opponent would try to flag him and would play quickly and blunder. It is a legitimate strategy that works to some extent over the board so I would expect it to have some effect online.
aerodarts wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:
Cjguz wrote:
I think I can speak for everyone when I say that it's very annoying to have to wait an excessive amount of time when playing timed games. I love this site but if I had one complaint, this would be it. May I suggest there be a "pay attention" button either player can press so it would give the opponent a warning or a "heads up" for about 1 minute. If the opponent is still actively playing, they should press the responding button within that time just to let the waiting opponent know that they're still there, thinking about a move. If that button is not responded to in a minute, the game should terminate. The way it's currently set up is only when the offender has left the chat is when the site gives them 5 minutes to get back to playing. Well, what if they don't leave? I don't want to have to wait for the time to be up and at the same time, I don't want to resign my game. What do you guys think of this suggestion??
I am actually in a game right now as I am posting that has this problem. I cant name and shame. But its a 30 minute game and my opponent, in a clearly lost position, has not moved for some 15 minutes now. After checking his home page I see many similar complaints.
Yes, its my biggest issue playing on chess.com. Need some way to boot these clowns who can't face up to a loss and move on.
Game is not over until his time runs out or you checkmate them or they resign. When you went for a 30 minute game, you committed to one hour of your time. Does not matter who has the advantage. When this happens to me, I just find other things to do and check back once in awhile to see if it is my turn. I only play 5 minute blitz games on this site to avoid anyone who wants to make someone wait to claim the win.
You only play 5 minute blitz games so you arent tuned in to the problem that needs fixing. Its hard to make someone wait 20 minutes in a 5 minute game.
Some of you claim this is because I or others want people to resign.
Absolutely not! If someone is playing chess and trying to come back, or work on his technique, or wants to see if I have the technique to win...thats great, more power to them, play away. I do not have any problem at all with these people. I often do it myself.
My only problem is with the people who, 10 minutes into the game, drop a rook and then simply stop playing. This happens an annoyingly high percentage of the time.
Yes I sign for an hour of chess, and thats exactly what I am NOT getting. I am getting 15 minutes of chess followed by 20 minutes of time wasting.
If that means that I occasionally lose because I have to go take care of my kids in the middle of a game - I do not care at all. I can start a new game when I am done. I will happily take this occasional loss to avoid the time waste that happens much more frequently and is far more annoying.
I think there needs to be more buttons. Pushing an I'm taking a dump button would be hillarious.
Jan 29, 2014
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#57
I play blitz too! But even though I logged into this site a couple years ago I didn't like it at the time and did not play. I rejoined recently, learned how to get around at this site and now it is my favorite chess site! 
However, I rarely play blitz games over 10 minutes. That's because when I played 10 minute blitz games at chesshere.com they had a bunch of a-holes there who would just go watch TV for 10-12 minutes and make you wait for them to lose on time. One guy even posted in the forums how much he loved accepting 20-30 minute games just to get a kick out of making the guy suffer at the other end.
I think people like that should be kicked off the site! And as the administrator at Chesshere.com at the time, when I saw someone doing it I would send them a warning and if they did it again I would kick them off the site. But the problem for that site is that most players play for free. They are non-subscribers and when I would kick them off they would just log in under a new name and continue to abuse the other members. In short - they have NOTHING TO LOSE!
The owner of the site would not set up a program to lock out their IP address like they do here. This site is so much better because they don't allow jerks like that to disrupt the other members over and over again.
Yeah, I quit that site and just want to play chess. After a long search I think Chess.com is the best site in the world to play chess at. But, I must comment about the first message written:
"All chess sites abide by the International FIDE RULES." That means that if you accept a game for a certain time control that you must be willing to play the game at that exact time contol. You must also allow your opponent to play the game at the agreed upon time control! So don't complain if your opponent takes all his/her time trying to figure a way out of the position they have.
Don
Marie_Abraxzas wrote:
I was playing a sixty minute live game on another site (Chesscube). The opponent wasn't paying attention in the opening and was facing a forced mate in three or something after about five minutes of time. Then he texted me in the chat box "Good game, have fun waiting to claim the win" and he just let his clock run down 55 minutes.
Thats exactly the type of behaviour I see that is so prevalent, and what I hope Erik can help avoid. Its unneccesary. We play here for fun, not money, so why not make some way to avoid this sort of crap? Why does Marie, who wanted to play chess for an hour, have to stare at an unmoving screen for 55 minutes?
Does this benefit her chess playing skill?
Arrakis09 wrote:
That means that if you accept a game for a certain time control that you must be willing to play the game at that exact time contol. You must also allow your opponent to play the game at the agreed upon time control! So don't complain if your opponent takes all his/her time trying to figure a way out of the position they have.
Don
Your post is off topic.
No one is complaining about an opponent who moves slow, and is taking their time trying to figure a way out of their problem. Thats a good chess player.
I can deal with the player who plays on, even in a lost position, and is forcing me to find a way to convert. Good for them, they have tenacity. And maybe I need to improve my technique to convert the win, good chance to practice.
The complaint here is people who stop playing. They are in a lost position, and just let the rest of the time drain away without making more moves. You have all played these people. After a while, you can sense when it is happening.
Jan 29, 2014
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#60
Ubik42,
My post is NOT off topic! As a former administrator I have to point out to you that such behavior seems unacceptable to you, but you do not know if something serious could have happened at the time. For example, with a pool of 8 million users at the site it is very likely that at some point an emergency could happen! It could be a heart attack, baby crying, emergecy phone call, house on fire and a thousand other things. The best way to handle these problems is thusly:
If you feel the player has broken the official FIDE rules (which in your category would fall under "Unsportmsman like conduct"), then send a complaint to the administrator and let the problem be documented. Nobody is solving any kind of problem by simply posting a message. All real problems must be documented! Next time a person pulls the same stunt and their opponent documents the problem, BINGO! The administrator now has something that can be used! "Marie" will be sent a warning message and guess what!? If "Marie" does it one more time they will be kicked off and LOCKED OUT! They will probably go back to chesshere.com where they can get away with logging back in under a different name - BUT NOT HERE!
I have total confidence that if everybody who has a problem sends it into the administrative department that it will be taken care of. Another thing that you can do is simply add "Marie" to your 'Ignore list'. Any player you put in that list will not be playing you anymore.
Cheers,
Don
I agree with the people that say that they can use their time however they please, but when I'm playing an hour game with 30 mins on the clock for both of us and my opponent is playing relatively consistently up to say 15 moves in, then just suddenly stops in a position that I honestly wouldn't consider complicated or an indication whether he/she is winning material-wise or positionally, there's a problem, and my opponent is probably most likely not interested in playing anymore. I'd rather take the initiative and have the button so that I don't have to wait 25 or 15 extra minutes just for the game to end. I understand the possibility that the opponent can be in deep thinking, but I seriously doubt a little reminder to give a heads up to your opponent can hinder concentration or plan of action completely.
Besides, what I'm talking about doesn't happen to me ALL the time. Just saying it would be nice to have such a function.