Don't replace 5 anything! 5|0 and 5|2 are my favorite time controls.
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amichay wrote:
30/30, 45/45 and 90/30 are real chess!!!!
I agree
Jul 23, 2014
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#145
Longer time controls are still missing, please use this changes to implement the longer time controls.
- Please add 30/30, 45/45, and 90/30.
- Also, "official" time controls would be fun. 2 hours for the first 40 moves, then another hour for 20 more, and finally 15 / 30 for the rest of the game. It's quite a task to program, but it would be amazing to play that time control online.
- Please add time stamps.
- I prefer if the 30/0 remains, but I also wouldn't mind seeing it removed now that I think about it. Edit: 3/2 should replace 5/2, but I'd much prefer if we had both. I've only played a few 5/2 games, but they were always quite a fun and refreshing experience.
Thanks a lot for all your hard work. It is surely very much appreciated by all chess.com members.
Dear Chess.com staff
Thanks for your excellent work. But about the issue we are discussing here
A little piece of data
Dan Heissman Learning Center 5927 members
World Standard Time Control Chess Club 365 days a year 3603 members
Slow Chess League 2227 members
Slow Live Chess Association 1326 members
These groups are the biggest, but there are a lot of small groups with only one purpose. To organize slow (slow at Chess.com means real chess at the real world ) at this site.
This issue appears regulary at the forum. For instance
http://www.chess.com/forum/view/suggestions/live-chess-4545-time
http://www.chess.com/forum/view/livechess/4545-amp-9030-slow-live-chess-please
Please, add 45/45 and 90/30 time controls, we really need it!!!.
Thanks in advance
J.A.
zugzwang67 escribió:
@ IM Daniel Rensch --
First thing first, thank you very much for your hard and good work and for giving the members the chance to promote their ideas. This is, at least, respectful.
Nevertheless, I'm a bit disapointed here. In my opinion, you're adressing something that's not really an issue. Deciding about the faith of 5|2 and 30|0 is quite useless, in my opinion. Anyone who's younger than 99 years old with a mouse can always set his favorite time control manually.
The real issue here is this one, I think: Should we implement slow LIVE 90|30 automated tournaments on Chess.com? I think the answer is «yes». I have organized and run some 90|30 Live WEEK-END tourneys lately here. Last events were a 4 round LIVE 90|30 WEEK-END tournaments for western hemisphere and same thing for eastern. We had 60 sign-ups for west and 50 for east. See the related groups here:
http://www.chess.com/groups/home/the-laquowestern-hemisphere-slow-live-week-end-championshipraquo
http://www.chess.com/groups/home/the-laquoeastern-hemisphere-slow-live-week-end-championshipraquo
I used a software for pairings. I could have handled an unlimited number of players. However, could you imagine what it would be if it was automated? And how in the world could I achieve 110 sign-ups without the support from Chess.com if there wasn't interest?
In my group here, the «Slow Live Chess Association» (http://www.chess.com/chessgroups?keyword=Slow+LIVE+Chess+Association), we also run negotiated tournaments, which means that the players must agree on a common suitable starting time for their games. And despite the apparent «pain in ass» factor of having to negotiate the day & time of the game, we play between 50 and 75 45|45 and 90|30 games per week. I'm alone to manage this; no admins.
I hope this make it clear what the actual issues are at Chess.com
Regards,
Sylvain Courtemanche;
aka zugzwang67
Slow Live Chess Association
100% agreed!!!!
Jul 23, 2014
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#149
Come and play in the Slow Chess League at the Dan Heisman Learning Center. We are the original Slow Chess League on Chess.com and offer time controls you want as well as actual tournament competition and other ways to play. And, we support this effort to add G/45+45 and other standard time controls including G/90+30 to the available time controls for live play without having to use custom settings. In addition, our DHLC Chat Room Chess Club is a great way for a casual game, chat, and analysis without formal signups.
Looks like that 99% of the people here want 45|45, 90|30 and 30|30. And I'm in those 99% too.
Don't forget that in addition to 45|45 and 90|30, we also strongly need 30|30, otherwise there would be a big gap in the time controls.
i.e. without 30|30 there would be no time control between 25|5 = 30 minutes and 45|45 = 90 minutes... Thus we need a time control that's approximately equal to 60 minutes, so we need 30|30
30|30 is common OTB, and it is very round and therefore natural.
Also, we don't need both 3|0 and 2|1 because they are both approximately equal. Keep 3|0 and get rid of 2|1.
Same goes for 3|2 and 5|0, they are both equal so we don't need both of them...
25|5 is better than 30|0. But either 25|10 or 30|5 are even much better than 25|5. (I slightly prefer 25|10 over 30|5)
Chess.com's statistics might show that there might be much more bullet games played, but that's only because they take so little time.
If 50% of chess.com members played exclusively 30|0, and the other 50% played exclusively 1|0, then both time controls would be equally popular. Yet 97% of all the games would be 1|0. But that wouldn't mean that 1|0 is more popular than 30|0. It is just the consequence that one game of 30|0 takes as long as 30 games of 1|0...
Also chess.com's statistics might show that there are not many long games played with a time control greater than 30 minutes. But that too doesn't mean that nobody likes long time controls. It is simply due to the fact that there are currently no long time controls in the "default list" of time controls, and therefore when someone asks for a long game he will have to wait a lot of time to be paired with an opponent... and most people won't wait for half an hour just to get a game... But hopefully this will change if chess.com adds 45|45, 90|30 and 30|30.
@Skynet, you are totally right!
@Skynet, a real good explanation!!!
I agree with Skynet. Just for some info...
90+30 is about a 4 hour game. 45+45 is about a 2.5 hour game.
Long standard games like that need to be an option, but there needs to be some faster standard games as well.
30+30 is about a 1.5 hour game.
Some people want to be a slow time control, but don't have time for a 45+45 or 90+30, whereas 30+30 fits the bill.
Please add 30/30, 45/45, and 90/30.
There are large communities that like longer time controls like 30|0, 45|0 and so forth. They should not be removed lest these communities lose their preferred aspects of the game.
Jul 23, 2014
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#157
Summary -- at least three huge groups are *dedicated* to slow time controls:
NM Aww-Rats (8513) and Dan Heisman Learning Center (5931) and World Standard Time Control (3605) + other? == 18049. Some member crossover in groups for sure, but the point is that the *slow* chess community is large, active and increasingly looking to Chess.com leadership for support.
The support can be in the form of standard time control like 45/45, and 90/30. Support can also be in the for of timestamps (why the heck is that so hard to do?), and so on. The reason is that the *slow* chess community is looking for a reasonable facsimile for OTB, including pace of play, and the ability to see which moves took longer (is our thinking correct?).
Some of these are groups that publish their own newsletter and are also puzzled as to why Chess.com wants to remove downloads (we use for game collections) but that is another topic entirely (V3 Chess.com).
Please add 30/30, 45/45 and 90/30 in the default time controls
I suggest giving emphasis to longer time controls than 30/0,
like 30/30, 45/45, 60/30 and 90/30
Why are chess servers consistantly going DOWN in time?? This is counter-intuitive to playing "real" chess. While it's good for a quick game, there are people that actually want to improve upon their long game.
45/45 or 90/30 is a vote to ADD!!!
Going down makes no sense what-so-ever