Beats me. Lets see links to a few of the games in question.
Click on Help & Support and contact the staff directly with this question, they will want links to some examples of this happening.
Weird warning messages all of a sudden
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There are threads where people have found that they are hitting the abort button accidentally or losing games to time outs because of involuntary disconnections.
But when the site's programming sends messages about aborts/time outs I don't know. On starting a new game I could understand but at the time of a resignation seems a bit odd.
Oct 17, 2012
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#4
Killing_Joke wrote:
For some reason, I keep getting the following messages:
Please do not intentionally abort or disconnect from games, or make your opponents wait unnecessarily.Your account may be restricted if you do not follow our Fair Play Policy. Thank you for keeping Chess.com a fun and fair place to enjoy chess!However, I do not abort/disconnect etc. I get this message after clicking RESIGN. Or sometimes when starting a new game.
What gives?
It will be relating to possible stalling during that game?
If you stall during a game, the warning message doesn't appear until the game is over.
WTF do you mean stall? Is there a time limit per move? if I have a clock running, I should be allowed whateer time I need in considering a position.
Killing_Joke wrote:
WTF do you mean stall? Is there a time limit per move? if I have a clock running, I should be allowed whateer time I need in considering a position.
Valid point
I'm getting it too. Must be software error.
Oct 19, 2012
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#8
Killing_Joke wrote:
WT do you mean stall? Is there a time limit per move? if I have a clock running, I should be allowed whateer time I need in considering a position.
It means for example if a player is in a 30|0 and you take 20 minutes to make their second move, or a player leaves their opponent waiting while they rush to the bathroom, chat in main hall, play other games, surf the net (as example).
The site comments are full of people complaining
'he wouldn't move',
'he disconnected in a lost position', he refused to move when i was one move from checkmate'
'hey why are all my games are aborted .. i just want to play, why are people aborting my games'
'he logged off and left the clock running 20 minutes'
Its no fun being on the receiving end ... imagine you're one move from checkmate.. your opponent just stops moving and theres 15 minutes on the clock. I know you weren't doing this yourself, I'm showing some of the reasons/causes for it.
We are trying to help those on the receiving end of people abusing their game play on here, but its not easy to please everyone.
Our policy isn't perfect and we did tweak it to be a little less agressive, but we have so many unhappy people on the site because of the reasons above.
Oct 19, 2012
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#9
Got the same message several times recently (playing bullet, so not much stalling possibilities).
It happened after I was somehow disconnected, although my internet connection was perfect and I could still use the rest of the chess.com website.
(edit: and, no I never abort or intentionally disconnect during a game)
kohai wrote:
Killing_Joke wrote:
WT do you mean stall? Is there a time limit per move? if I have a clock running, I should be allowed whateer time I need in considering a position.
It means for example if a player is in a 30|0 and you take 20 minutes to make their second move, or a player leaves their opponent waiting while they rush to the bathroom, chat in main hall, play other games, surf the net (as example).
I can't go pee?! That's absurd.
I received the message
"Please do not intentionally abort or disconnect from games, or make your opponents wait unnecessarily. ..."
before my first game after a new login.
I never disconnected intentionally, but when playing on my Android the game gets disconnected at least in one of three games.
So, at least in my situation threats are not helpful, rather are improvements on the chess.com-app.
kohai wrote:
Killing_Joke wrote:
WT do you mean stall? Is there a time limit per move? if I have a clock running, I should be allowed whateer time I need in considering a position.
It means for example if a player is in a 30|0 and you take 20 minutes to make their second move, or a player leaves their opponent waiting while they rush to the bathroom, chat in main hall, play other games, surf the net (as example).
The site comments are full of people complaining
'he wouldn't move',
'he disconnected in a lost position', he refused to move when i was one move from checkmate'
'hey why are all my games are aborted .. i just want to play, why are people aborting my games'
'he logged off and left the clock running 20 minutes'
Its no fun being on the receiving end ... imagine you're one move from checkmate.. your opponent just stops moving and theres 15 minutes on the clock. I know you weren't doing this yourself, I'm showing some of the reasons/causes for it.
We are trying to help those on the receiving end of people abusing their game play on here, but its not easy to please everyone.
Our policy isn't perfect and we did tweak it to be a little less agressive, but we have so many unhappy people on the site because of the reasons above.
This is RETARDED.
If you want to make a minimum move, then MAKE A SEPARATE CLOCK FOR IT. Show total time, then a PER MOVE TIME.
But the policy is BS.
I am at home - I have to answer the door to reeive a package or whatever. You are saying I can't??
Or I am waiting for my oppoinent to move - he is taking a long time, so I go to the fridge to get a drink... and I don't hear the move sound (whcih is hard to hear in teh first place) so I do realize he moved right away, and then you call the game abaondoned?
YOU ARE IDIOTS.
Killing_Joke wrote:
kohai wrote:
Killing_Joke wrote:
WT do you mean stall? Is there a time limit per move? if I have a clock running, I should be allowed whateer time I need in considering a position.
It means for example if a player is in a 30|0 and you take 20 minutes to make their second move, or a player leaves their opponent waiting while they rush to the bathroom, chat in main hall, play other games, surf the net (as example).
The site comments are full of people complaining
'he wouldn't move',
'he disconnected in a lost position', he refused to move when i was one move from checkmate'
'hey why are all my games are aborted .. i just want to play, why are people aborting my games'
'he logged off and left the clock running 20 minutes'
Its no fun being on the receiving end ... imagine you're one move from checkmate.. your opponent just stops moving and theres 15 minutes on the clock. I know you weren't doing this yourself, I'm showing some of the reasons/causes for it.
We are trying to help those on the receiving end of people abusing their game play on here, but its not easy to please everyone.
Our policy isn't perfect and we did tweak it to be a little less agressive, but we have so many unhappy people on the site because of the reasons above.
This is RETARDED.
If you want to make a minimum move, then MAKE A SEPARATE CLOCK FOR IT. Show total time, then a PER MOVE TIME.
But the policy is BS.
I am at home - I have to answer the door to reeive a package or whatever. You are saying I can't??
Or I am waiting for my oppoinent to move - he is taking a long time, so I go to the fridge to get a drink... and I don't hear the move sound (whcih is hard to hear in teh first place) so I do realize he moved right away, and then you call the game abaondoned?
YOU ARE IDIOTS.
I agree, if you are playing a 30 minutes games, then you are agreeing that your opponent may spent 20 minutes in any move he wants.
kohai wrote:
Killing_Joke wrote:
WT do you mean stall? Is there a time limit per move? if I have a clock running, I should be allowed whateer time I need in considering a position.
Its no fun being on the receiving end ... imagine you're one move from checkmate.. your opponent just stops moving and theres 15 minutes on the clock. I know you weren't doing this yourself, I'm showing some of the reasons/causes for it.
So what?? Maybe he's searching for a saving move, I wouldn't care. Is his time, he can do whatever he wants.
This "rule" (not a chess rule, that's for sure) is stupid.
Killing_Joke wrote:
kohai wrote:
Killing_Joke wrote:
WT do you mean stall? Is there a time limit per move? if I have a clock running, I should be allowed whateer time I need in considering a position.
It means for example if a player is in a 30|0 and you take 20 minutes to make their second move, or a player leaves their opponent waiting while they rush to the bathroom, chat in main hall, play other games, surf the net (as example).
The site comments are full of people complaining
'he wouldn't move',
'he disconnected in a lost position', he refused to move when i was one move from checkmate'
'hey why are all my games are aborted .. i just want to play, why are people aborting my games'
'he logged off and left the clock running 20 minutes'
Its no fun being on the receiving end ... imagine you're one move from checkmate.. your opponent just stops moving and theres 15 minutes on the clock. I know you weren't doing this yourself, I'm showing some of the reasons/causes for it.
We are trying to help those on the receiving end of people abusing their game play on here, but its not easy to please everyone.
Our policy isn't perfect and we did tweak it to be a little less agressive, but we have so many unhappy people on the site because of the reasons above.
This is RETARDED.
If you want to make a minimum move, then MAKE A SEPARATE CLOCK FOR IT. Show total time, then a PER MOVE TIME.
But the policy is BS.
I am at home - I have to answer the door to reeive a package or whatever. You are saying I can't??
Or I am waiting for my oppoinent to move - he is taking a long time, so I go to the fridge to get a drink... and I don't hear the move sound (whcih is hard to hear in teh first place) so I do realize he moved right away, and then you call the game abaondoned?
YOU ARE IDIOTS.
the lad protest a tad too much....
Setting up a short game means just that, a short game. If you want a more leasurely game with a friend, set that up. I play both at different times. Sometimes a 30 minute game is fun, fast, and without mercy. I don't plan for bathroom breaks, natural disasters, or any any other parts of real life. If I run out of time, I lose. The same is true of my opponent.
Whaleeyeman wrote:
How do you know whether the "stalling" (as you call it) is intentional disruption? What about those complicated positions that the player wants to spend more time thinking through? Are you going to penalise him for "stalling" just the same as someone intentionally taking 20 minutes to choose a move after 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 . . . ?
What about those players who aren't "stalling" but something comes up in real life? Yes, "Real Life," its a concept perhaps your computer-heads should think about. For example, we in the Bahamas went through the outskirts of a Hurricane just in the last two days, which killed one citizen. Santiago de Cuba and Guantanamo Bay in Cuba suffered heavy damage and sixteen died there. Not that I'm saying there will be a natural disaster every day, but there are always phone calls, people coming in, deliveries, and all the minutiae of REAL LIFE.
And telling my anarchist friend that he can't use the toilet during a thirty minute game is the height of arrogance!
Exactly
Oct 27, 2012
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#18
Journalist: It might be inconvenient to interrupt our profound discussion and change the subject slightly, but I would like to know whether extraneous, abstract thoughts ever enter your head while playing a game?
Tal: Yes. For example, I will never forget my game with GM Vasiukov on a USSR Championship. We reached a very complicated position where I was intending to sacrifice a knight. The sacrifice was not obvious; there was a large number of possible variations; but when I began to study hard and work through them, I found to my horror that nothing would come of it. Ideas piled up one after another. I would transport a subtle reply by my opponent, which worked in one case, to another situation where it would naturally prove to be quite useless. As a result my head became filled with a completely chaotic pile of all sorts of moves, and the infamous "tree of variations", from which the chess trainers recommend that you cut off the small branches, in this case spread with unbelievable rapidity.
And then suddenly, for some reason, I remembered the classic couplet by Korney Ivanović Chukovsky: "Oh, what a difficult job it was. To drag out of the marsh the hippopotamus". I do not know from what associations the hippopotamus got into the chess board, but although the spectators were convinced that I was continuing to study the position, I, despite my humanitarian education, was trying at this time to work out: just how WOULD you drag a hippopotamus out of the marsh? I remember how jacks figured in my thoughts, as well as levers, helicopters, and even a rope ladder.
After a lengthy consideration I admitted defeat as an engineer, and thought spitefully to myself: "Well, just let it drown!" And suddenly the hippopotamus disappeared. Went right off the chessboard just as he had come on ... of his own accord! And straightaway the position did not appear to be so complicated. Now I somehow realized that it was not possible to calculate all the variations, and that the knight sacrifice was, by its very nature, purely intuitive. And since it promised an interesting game, I could not refrain from making it.
And the following day, it was with pleasure that I read in the paper how Mikhail Tal, after carefully thinking over the position for 40 minutes, made an accurately calculated piece sacrifice.
— Mikhail Tal, The Life and Games of Mikhail Tal.
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The moral of the story?
How a player chooses to use the time on his clock is entirely his own business!
My opponent can be carefully analysing the position, or he can be going to the toilet, or the door, or the fridge, or strategising how to drag a hippo from a marsh, or getting in a quick snooze, I am really not going to complain, and it's looking in this thread like that's the majority view, despite the site clearly having received complaints from the (seems like a vocal minority) other camp.
____________________________________________________________
The moral of the story?
How a player chooses to use the time on his clock is entirely his own business!
My opponent can be carefully analysing the position, or he can be going to the toilet, or the door, or the fridge, or strategising how to drag a hippo from a marsh, or getting in a quick snooze, I am really not going to complain, and it's looking in this thread like that's the majority view, despite the site clearly having received complaints from the (seems like a vocal minority) other camp.
Oct 27, 2012
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#20
kco wrote:
your moral of the story, did it occur in the internet ?
By "it", you mean the game between Tal and Vasiukov?
Of course it didn't, but what difference does it make? The clock is ticking, and a player isn't paying attention to the game, while the other person is waiting.
If a player can't stand waiting for an opponent to move, they're probably best sticking to Blitz.
For some reason, I keep getting the following messages:
However, I do not abort/disconnect etc. I get this message after clicking RESIGN. Or sometimes when starting a new game.
What gives?