I have a suggestion on conditional move. Consider I play in a game of 3 days/move and set a conditional move. My opponent delays his move till the time reduces to 10hrs. If he makes a move, and my conditional move applies, the new dead-line for my opponent becomes 3 days. And he again waits till the time reduces to 12 hrs and then plays the next move. Instead, wouldn't it be better when the conditional move is applied, the dead-line for the next move as un-affected?
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The waiting happens not only when the players are qualified. But after the qualified players completed their games. hence the check should begin after the "n" people completed their games in the group. The "n" is the number of players qualify for the next round.
I would like to see that the vacation time used be limited. I'm in my first tournament and it's frustrating when someone abuses their vacation time. Maybe vacation time should only be used once during a tournament with maximum time allotted to be 3 days throughout the entire tournament. Once the 3 days are up, you can't use any more of your accrued vacation time. Some people may say that it's unfair to set a limit on vacation time use, but if you can't deal with it because you have other commitments that extend beyond 3 days, then don't enter the tournament. I believe this suggestion would move tourneys more quickly to resolutions.
Schachgeek wroYte:
joetrigger wrote:
I would like to see that the vacation time used be limited. I'm in my first tournament and it's frustrating when someone abuses their vacation time. Maybe vacation time should only be used once during a tournament with maximum time allotted to be 3 days throughout the entire tournament. Once the 3 days are up, you can't use any more of your accrued vacation time. Some people may say that it's unfair to set a limit on vacation time use, but if you can't deal with it because you have other commitments that extend beyond 3 days, then don't enter the tournament. I believe this suggestion would move tourneys more quickly to resolutions.
There have been many threads about vacation use during tournaments, and in response to a vocal minority of players the compromise implemented by chess.com was to allow the tournament director to specify at the outset if it's a vacation or no vacation tournament.
If you dont want to enter a tournament where vacation is allowed, don't.
However, it's not up to you to dictate how another person uses their vacation time, just as it's not up to them to dictate how you use your v-time. The simple fact is when a player runs out of vacation, they run out, but in the meantime using vacation does not automatically = vacation abuse. Deal with it.
Maybe I wasn't specific enough. I am talking about when a player has 90 days of vacation and uses it all up and stops the tournament for at least 3 months. Assuming a tournament with at least a 100 players (small tourney), if every one of them had 90 days v-time and they all used it consecutively and not concurrently the tournament would last approx. 3 years. Although the above situation actually occuring is quite remote, what I am recommending is to limit vacation time use during tourneys if everyone wants to cut the time short. As far as your concerned Schackgeek, I am dealing with it by expressing my opinion. I didn't ask you to agree with it, but I don't believe a snippy remark like "deal with it" is appropriate for this forum.
eric, I am in this tournament, which has been going on since 01 Feb 2010- still on the first round. For the past month or so, a bunch on non-consequencial games have been still playing, with one still going on-
Pairings - 6th Chess.com Thematic Tournament - Gruenfeld (1001-1200)
Clearly, if we allow the next round of tounaments to proceed...where there are still inconsequential games still running (for previous round)...this will speed up tournaments.
joetrigger wrote:
Maybe I wasn't specific enough. I am talking about when a player has 90 days of vacation and uses it all up and stops the tournament for at least 3 months. Assuming a tournament with at least a 100 players (small tourney), if every one of them had 90 days v-time and they all used it consecutively and not concurrently the tournament would last approx. 3 years. Although the above situation actually occuring is quite remote, what I am recommending is to limit vacation time use during tourneys if everyone wants to cut the time short. As far as your concerned Schackgeek, I am dealing with it by expressing my opinion. I didn't ask you to agree with it, but I don't believe a snippy remark like "deal with it" is appropriate for this forum.
Any game is between 2 players. If the 2 players are taking vacation by turn for 90days + 90days, it can extend only upto 180 days. And not 3 years
joetrigger wrote:
I would like to see that the vacation time used be limited. I'm in my first tournament and it's frustrating when someone abuses their vacation time. Maybe vacation time should only be used once during a tournament with maximum time allotted to be 3 days throughout the entire tournament. Once the 3 days are up, you can't use any more of your accrued vacation time. Some people may say that it's unfair to set a limit on vacation time use, but if you can't deal with it because you have other commitments that extend beyond 3 days, then don't enter the tournament. I believe this suggestion would move tourneys more quickly to resolutions.
Spoiling the vacation privilage for player is not the right solution.
The last meaningful game in the following tournament
http://www.chess.com/tournament/team-asia-960-tournament
completed 49 days ago. But I'm still waiting for the next round to be started
panandh wrote:
The last meaningful game in the following tournament
http://www.chess.com/tournament/team-asia-960-tournament
completed 49 days ago. But I'm still waiting for the next round to be started
That game is not meaningless. If white won he would move up to 2nd place and advance.
Black should win that game very very soon.
Check your calculation. He will not move to 2nd place. The tie-break score will change.
As a free member I can only join one tournament at a time. I resigned the last game from a fighting position. The game could have been won/draw/lost. I resigned after doing all the math and made sure I will move to the next round.
This shows how difficult to implement this feature.
May 2, 2010
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The privilege of "vacation" time is being abused by some and apparently nothing can or will be done about it. If I continue playing on chess.com, I will never play a "vacation" - allowed tourney again. Ist rd. of WJ's ChessWar #2 took from July to March of 2010. 2nd and final round is won unless I stroke out(age 75) and yet I am playing someone in my last game who is taking max time every move(his right) but when combined w/ multiple "vacations"(his privilege!!!) makes a mockery of playing a chess game and he says he really "loves" to play! I have complained about this but have not received what I consider an adequate response. This will be my last complaint - which will delight management I'm sure. This technique,before clocks, was given the name of "sitzflesch", sitting on your ass until your opponent gives up!
chesschappie
I am talking about 100 players in a round robin tourney with 20 groups of 5 players and everyone of these players had accrued their 30 days max vacation and used it consecutively and not concurrently it, you could concievably have a tournament last forr years.
joetrigger wrote:
Maybe I wasn't specific enough. I am talking about when a player has 90 days of vacation and uses it all up and stops the tournament for at least 3 months. Assuming a tournament with at least a 100 players (small tourney), if every one of them had 90 days v-time and they all used it consecutively and not concurrently the tournament would last approx. 3 years. Although the above situation actually occuring is quite remote, what I am recommending is to limit vacation time use during tourneys if everyone wants to cut the time short. As far as your concerned Schackgeek, I am dealing with it by expressing my opinion. I didn't ask you to agree with it, but I don't believe a snippy remark like "deal with it" is appropriate for this forum.
Any game is between 2 players. If the 2 players are taking vacation by turn for 90days + 90days, it can extend only upto 180 days. And not 3 years
chesschappie wrote:
The privilege of "vacation" time is being abused by some and apparently nothing can or will be done about it. If I continue playing on chess.com, I will never play a "vacation" - allowed tourney again. Ist rd. of WJ's ChessWar #2 took from July to March of 2010. 2nd and final round is won unless I stroke out(age 75) and yet I am playing someone in my last game who is taking max time every move(his right) but when combined w/ multiple "vacations"(his privilege!!!) makes a mockery of playing a chess game and he says he really "loves" to play! I have complained about this but have not received what I consider an adequate response. This will be my last complaint - which will delight management I'm sure. This technique,before clocks, was given the name of "sitzflesch", sitting on your ass until your opponent gives up!
chesschappie
I totally agree with you on this. I think the vacation rules should be modified. But care should be taken for people who love chess and have a lots of travel on their work. But surely spending half-an hour in internet once in 3 days shouldn't be a problem in this era, unless you are travelling to some remote places. Work related travels are not to the remote places very often.
panandh wrote:
Any game is between 2 players. If the 2 players are taking vacation by turn for 90days + 90days, it can extend only upto 180 days. And not 3 years
I just cross-checked the calculation. In the 180 days both players if receive another 90 days vacation in the worst case, the game will continue forever 
When only one player advance in a group, it is much easier to calculate whether one person earned enough points. On the other hand, when multiple players are advancing to the next round, it needs a thorough calculation to check.
A simple logic to compute the maximum/minimum possible score to be achieved by each person (and tie-break) score to check with other player is good enough. This will be really helpful in chess.com monthly tournament as only one player is advanced in chess.com tournament
http://www.chess.com/tournaments/pairings.html?id=19728&round=1
Perhaps this topic is dead, but here is a tournament that I am TD of with one game left. It just started, six months after the start of the tournament. It is a game of no consequence for the tournamant.
Eric mentioned some time ago that the query was large and would be burdonsome to execute. Why not just leave it to the TD to declare a winner for that group and let the next round start. If a TD does it when they shouldn't, avoid that TD for other events.
Nov 23, 2010
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I am currently in a tournament which started in June of 2009..................
http://www.chess.com/tournament/the-2nd-low-rated-tournament
Possibly a record lol?
funnily enough in this tournament its not vacation time but the days per move that make it so slow :P
I agree 100%. In fact, it's not just one way, I think it's the ideal way.
There's some good discussion around some of the different options here:
http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/discussion-of-different-time-limits-for-online-games