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scottault

I am rated at about 1100 and I have seen this before. Its not new its just not very good. You might beat me with it but you will lose to good players.

Philly_door
scottault wrote:

I am rated at about 1100 and I have seen this before. Its not new its just not very good. You might beat me with it but you will lose to good players.

To better than me players i will lose with any opening.

And if you realy have seen this plan before that not nessesary means it is not good .

scottault

Thats true no disrespect intended.

DiogenesDue
Irontiger wrote:

Wait...

How did you get your rating of 1737, if you believe this kind of thing is remotely playable ?

How do you know these moves are not winning?  After all, we don't have a 32 piece tablebase to prove that this opening does not in fact bust the entire game of chess... ;)

Phylar

Ah, the people that are apparently immune to play and sarcasm.

Philly_door
ScorpionPackAttack wrote:
TetsuoShima wrote:

Of the twenty possible first moves in the game of chess, author and grandmaster Edmar Mednis argues that 1.f3 is the worst.[1] The move does exert influence over the central square e4, but the same or more ambitious goals can be achieved with almost any other first move. 1.f3 develops no pieces, opens no lines for pieces, and actually hinders the development of White's kingside knight by denying it its most natural square f3. 1.f3 also weakens White's king side pawn structure, opens the e1-h4 diagonal against White's uncastled king, and opens the e1-a5 diagonal against White's potential king-side castling position.[1]

Since 1.f3 is a poor move, it is not played often. Nonetheless, it is probably not the rarest opening move. After 1.f3 e5 some players even continue with the nonsensical 2.Kf2, which is sometimes called the Wandering King Opening, The Hammerschlag, or the Pork Chop Opening. One example of this was Simon Williams against Martin Simons in the last round of the British championship tournament in 1999 where Williams had nothing to play for.[2]

Despite its obvious deficiencies, 1.f3 does not lose the game for White. Black can secure a comfortable advantage by the normal means – advancing central pawns and rapidly developing pieces to assert control over central squares.

wikipedia

What about the retard king variation 1.f3.d5 2.Kf2?  That develops the king.  Of course it's not very good

I agree that castleing is anachronism, though 2.Kf2 is mayby premature.

About the  king in the centre in the midlegame i have an example :



TetsuoShima
Phylar wrote:

Ah, the people that are apparently immune to play and sarcasm.

on the net its hard to tell when people are sarcastic or ironic, so its best to take everything for face value unless they say differently.

NSB2

With Fritz's suggestion for white moves the game would go:

Fritz shows an evaluation of over 2 in favor of White; therefore, this opening costs the equivalent of two pawns Smile

Philly_door

Of course,i will not recommend to play this against Fritz.

P.S.

I am not waiting many people to like this opening - after all, this is ATROCIOUS OPENING .

Philly_door

I made few new atrocious attempts with this opening. 

Here is one where i had won position but was terribly bad with time and finally the game finished draw.



Philly_door

By the way - my spell checker doesn't work . Does anybody have the same prpblem ?

LoveYouSoMuch

"atrocious opening", i like it. 7.. b6 though clearly doesn't fit in with the demands of the position.

i prefer 1. h4 2. e3 3. Be2 4. g4 myself

Philly_door
LoveYouSoMuch wrote:

"atrocious opening", i like it. 7.. b6 though clearly doesn't fit in with the demands of the position.

i prefer 1. h4 2. e3 3. Be2 4. g4 myself

Oh,interesting ! I promice i will try this way. 

Love you so much, too.

Philly_door

Here i will dare some lyric deflection:

This is pelikan - a very obliging bird with very fast reaction
WalangAlam

I would like to play with you using this opening on a 45/45 time frame.

Philly_door
WalangAlam wrote:

I would like to play with you using this opening on a 45/45 time frame.

Ok, thanks, but please excuse me - i am now searching for a decent reason to decline your offer, and if i don't find, we will play.

xxvalakixx

In an opening you should fight for the center, develop your pieces, and castle. This opening is just horrible.

Philly_door
LongIslandMark wrote:
Philly_door wrote:

By the way - my spell checker doesn't work . Does anybody have the same prpblem ?

Yes - spell chgecker is brokeen

I hope they are mending it, but obviously, are not very much in a hurry.

TetsuoShima
Philly_door wrote:
LongIslandMark wrote:
Philly_door wrote:

By the way - my spell checker doesn't work . Does anybody have the same prpblem ?

Yes - spell chgecker is brokeen

I hope they are mending it, but obviously, are not very much in a hurry.

 

how did you find that picture?? seriously no kidding you are really really good in finding rare stuff, ever thought about the idea of becoming private detective??

Philly_door
xxvalakixx wrote:

In an opening you should fight for the center, develop your pieces, and castle. This opening is just horrible.

With such arguments were not accepted in the begining openings like 1.d4 g6 and 1.b3.

By the way " horrible " i think is not enough for this opening - i would change " atrocious " eventualy with " obnoxious " , but am not sure which is better.