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How can i stalemate when i have most of my pieces and the opponent had king only

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Anonymous_Moose

It keeps happening where i am clearly winning, the opponent is down to the king only, it will only take a few moves to get checkmate, and then i get a stalemate?  It makes no sense, i rightfully won the game, yet i get punished.  Worse is that the opponent who deserves a loss gets off with a stalemate.

RunawayKnight

If you cannot checkmate your opponrnt with most of your pieces then a stalemate is deserved.  Chess has rules and a stalemate is one of them.

Chuck

goldendog

Bad rules of chess! Bad! No dinner for you!

champ_weller

ok let me explain to you something when your opponent has a king then if you move a piece and you dont put him into check and your opponent cant move its called stalemate

champ_weller

i am sure he didnt kow this i am trying to widen his chess knowledge

Gil-Gandel
snakesbelly wrote:

I think this is the 'solution' to chess everybody is always talking about. If you play Kasparov,Polgar or some super computer just lose all your pieces and then get a stalemate. Sure you only get half a point but so does everbody else . Chess solved.

I will personally donate US$1000 to the charity of your choice if the OP is in fact able to lose his pieces to Kasparov or Polgar and then get a stalemate. In fact, I'll even make it US$100 if he can lose all his pieces to me and then get a stalemate. Laughing But I don't play blitz, bullet or any of that silly stuff.

Clipse83
snakesbelly wrote:

I don't understand why these rules favor the loser and it's in every aspect of the game I started playing live chess until one day I was destroying this guy and just because he had more time left than me he won!!! What has more time got to do with chess, time does not make you a better player!!

Its your job to capture the king, not corner him.

helltank
snakesbelly wrote:

This is why chess will always be just a game and never be a true sport because in real sport if you beat a guy on points or goals or tries or whatever you win even if the time runs out.

In real life, if you have a superior weapon, superior bullets, much more bullets and also an aiming scope, but you take three minutes to press the trigger in a gunfight, you die. 

CaptainPike

Okay, let's lighten up on Brackess a little bit. What we are dealing with, here, is a misunderstanding of the rules of chess.

Brackess, you need to calm down yourself. I looked at your games and it happened only once.

In Chess, if your opponent can not make a move, the game is considered a stalemate. Here is the game in question:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Remembering the rule that the opponent has to have a place to move, let's look at this. It is White's turn. The King can only move 1 square in any direction. The King has no place to go! Any move the King makes either places it in a square adjacent of your King (an illegal move) or in check with the Queen.

Because the Queen covers not only ranks and files but also diagonals, the King/Queen checkmate can be a little tricky. In each move of the King/Queen checkmate. you must make sure that the King has a place to go until you are ready to affect checkmate.

Let's analyze the game a little:

One more suggestion, and this is strictly personal and many will disagree. This was a 10/0 game. I suggest to stay away from speed chess. I would suggest that you play no less than 15/10 games (30" is allright too) or correspondence chess. Also, look into articles and tools that chess.com has to offer.

Good luck in your future games.

CaptainPike
helltank wrote:
snakesbelly wrote:

This is why chess will always be just a game and never be a true sport because in real sport if you beat a guy on points or goals or tries or whatever you win even if the time runs out.

In real life, if you have a superior weapon, superior bullets, much more bullets and also an aiming scope, but you take three minutes to press the trigger in a gunfight, you die. 

And herein lies the problem. In the game that ended in stalemate, posted above, nothing was aimed at the King. Everything was aimed around the King.

Gil-Gandel

Note that in the "blue" line in #21, 67. ...Qb7# wins at once.

CaptainPike
Gil-Gandel wrote:

Note that in the "blue" line in #21, 67. ...Qb7# wins at once.

hehheh, yeah, I caught that after I posted it, a little embarassing.

damongross

Well, it wasn't until about the 1850s that the chess world came to agree unanimously that a stalemate would be counted as a draw.  You could get in your time machine and go back to before that time and duel it out if you came to a stalemate.

stephen_33
CaptainPike makes an excellent point - even the best of players make errors under time pressure. You need a comfortable environment in which to play with enough time to make the best moves you can but don't blame the rules of the game when you make a mistake !
 
Talking of which, I'm not certain about the analysis offered in post #21 - in the alternative line shown, wouldn't black play 66...Qb6# ? & come to that why would white play 66.Ka6 in the first place when he should have gone to a8 ?
The fact is, it takes at least 4 moves (if white doesn't cooperate) to bring about mate which brings me to my next point - was Brackess wrong in moving his king to c5 ? because it looks o/k to me if you play the best moves:-
 
 
 
 
Mate is forced in no more than 4 moves. So perhaps c5 wasn't such a bad move ?
 
Normally, however you should aim to limit your opponent to just one file or rank at the edge of the board & then close in with the king.
 
!  Just spent a good hour or more trying to embed my version of the  diagram in this post....anyone need help with their chess because I definitely need help using the tools on this website ?
(I think I went wrong when I started with the diagram & then tried to use the 'Embed' function on the Board Editor !)
 
CaptainPike
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Gil-Gandel
CaptainPike wrote:
Gil-Gandel wrote:

Note that in the "blue" line in #21, 67. ...Qb7# wins at once.

hehheh, yeah, I caught that after I posted it, a little embarassing.

No worries, I've been caught with my @$$ out in the breeze worse than that. Laughing

tonizele

Every game has dumb rules and if you have ten pieces left and they only have a queen ? Stupid rule