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True or false? Chess will never be solved! why?


  • 6 months ago · Quote · #1161

    aerodarts

    Chess gets solved everyday. Just depends on how you define solved.

    A players makes some good moves and has a winning postion. They find a plan to solve the defense black has come up with and win the game.

    This game of chess was solved by the winning side. 

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #1162

    atc_viper

    Is not a draw also a solution?  Neither a win, nor a loss, but certainly a resolution.  In some cases, without a rule to cover it the game would never end, so in honor of "PI" day, may I suggest that man insists on a resolution or outcome and interupts the game by "rule" much the same as he rounds off the answer to 22 divided by 7.

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #1163

    HilarioFJunior

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  • 6 months ago · Quote · #1164

    winerkleiner

    I solved chess and I put this info in my safe deposit box, but I lost the key.  Damn wine all to h*ll. 

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #1165

    cjd2001

    http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Solving_chess http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-move_advantage_in_chess I believe to to answer this question, aside from the ones where a mate is made because of an avoidable error, every possible game would have to be analysed by some hefty super computer. I say this because there could be a massive amount of sacrifices in the "perfect game". With todays technology we can not say what percentage of possible games are pointless, throwaway games but if I had to guess I'd say it was about 99%. Chess will always be playable but the short answer is... yes, one day! But is it a draw like naughts and crosses? Or does white have to win?

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #1166

    Akatsuki64

    If in ten years it is solved it is falsely true, otherwise if it is not solved it is truely false.

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #1167

    millionairesdaughter

    Call Sherlock Holmes!!

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #1168

    shockinn

    ElderSchmoe wrote:
    ponz111 wrote:

    The term "chess will never be solved" is ambigous. What does it mean?

    If the question is "is chess a draw with perfect play on both sides?" the answer is "yes". 

    Couldn't have said it better myself.  

    You are an idiot. Both question have the same meaning and nobody knows whether it will be a draw with perfect play.

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #1169

    millionairesdaughter

    A perfect football match is a 0-0 draw.

    Exciting stuff!

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #1170

    Jenium

    AndyClifton wrote:

    Certainly it seems like this question will never be solved...

    only if chess will never be solved.

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #1171

    millionairesdaughter

    Will chess ever be dissolved ?

    (Oh please!)

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #1172

    ponz111

    shockinn wrote:
    ElderSchmoe wrote:
    ponz111 wrote:

    The term "chess will never be solved" is ambigous. What does it mean?

    If the question is "is chess a draw with perfect play on both sides?" the answer is "yes". 

    Couldn't have said it better myself.  

    You are an idiot. Both question have the same meaning and nobody knows whether it will be a draw with perfect play.

    Most people or chess players believe the two statements have different meanings.  "solved" means analyzed to a draw with ALL possible variations such as has been done in chess positions with only a few pieces.

    Is chess a draw with best possible moves? Means is chess a draw regardless if a chess computer ever solves chess by analyzing all variations.

    The answer to the 2nd question is "yes"

    The answer to can chess ever be "solved" is "probably not."

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #1173

    Akatsuki64

    Chess will be solved when I have finished my super quantum computer.

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #1174

    shockinn

    ponz111 wrote:
    shockinn wrote:
    ElderSchmoe wrote:
    ponz111 wrote:

    The term "chess will never be solved" is ambigous. What does it mean?

    If the question is "is chess a draw with perfect play on both sides?" the answer is "yes". 

    Couldn't have said it better myself.  

    You are an idiot. Both question have the same meaning and nobody knows whether it will be a draw with perfect play.

    Most people or chess players believe the two statements have different meanings.  "solved" means analyzed to a draw with ALL possible variations such as has been done in chess positions with only a few pieces.

    Is chess a draw with best possible moves? Means is chess a draw regardless if a chess computer ever solves chess by analyzing all variations.

    The answer to the 2nd question is "yes"

    The answer to can chess ever be "solved" is "probably not."

    No the answer to the second question is not yes. Only thing that can be said is black cant win with perfect play. But white might.

    You can take my word as I'm a neutral - brown.

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #1175

    ponz111

    schookin   Virtually all the strong players disagree with you.  More than 99.8% of the grandmasters disagree with you.  I also disagree with you.

    I know chess is a draw with best play for both sides.

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #1176

    MBClevenger

    Ponz111 How do you "know" it's a draw with perfect play for both sides? Can you prove it? No? Then you don't "know."

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #1177

    skotheim2

    False, because when it is solved, we will edit one rule and it will take a very long time before it gets solved again.

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #1178

    skotheim2

    Plus it will not be solved during my time anyways

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #1179

    ponz111

    MBClevenger wrote:

    Ponz111 How do you "know" it's a draw with perfect play for both sides? Can you prove it? No? Then you don't "know."

    All the evidence tells me chess is a draw with best play for both sides.

    my  60 plus years of playing also tells me this.

    Do you really think 99.8% of the grandmasters are wrong and you are right?

    As players progress in chess skill, they know more and more that chess is a draw with best play for both sides.


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