kaynight, if you stare at this message for 5 minutes you win. Feel satesfied? Im not on this page to win, Im her to play chess.
Secondly until you read a book about how internet economy works please stop bashing non-paying member. Where do you think all the paying members keep coming from?
Why do you think google, gmail, facebook is free?
no, but we agree that something should be done about players not resigning
I have had somedisconnect issues with opponents-I have only ever disconnected throughno fault of my own though. It shouldnt happen but it does. Taking into account the world wide interest in the game through Chess.com this is remarkable.. One opponent must have been bemused when I was disconnected whilst winning the game-if only they knew that it was my wife who pulled out the internet plug rather than the vacuium cleaner she was using at the time. Such domestic bliss that I can play chess when there is housework to do.
Excuse me kaynight, a non-payer? I have to be honest, this is the first time I came across this term. Is that an insult? I don't even know why you'd consider me using the free service an issue...it never crossed my mind that there is an elitist hierarchy. Besides, the forum is free to post on, so maybe you should go find a forum where you have to pay for each post and hang out there with your "payer" buddies, I have a feeling there a lot of "non-payers" around here and your narrow-minded views would probably not resonate well.
I am just here to play chess and think the idea I propose would improve the site. This is the Site Feedback & Suggestions page after all.
Coalfire, same thing happened to me on few occasions, sometimes you just lose a signal it can' be helped.
My issuse is watching some dimwit disconnect halfway through and whilst you giving him the benifit of the doubt you decide out of boredom to check out his profile where you find a bunch of posts that say "Do not play this guy, he disconnects when losing" or "Sore loser leaves the game", etc, etc.
This information should be available before one starts the game not after. I would like to know that the player I am about to play is notorious for leaving people hanging. I think it would be very useful.
the fact that it happens to everyone does not mean it should not be fixed. Canser happens to everyone, we're still loking for a cure.
Also if disconection happened 50% in loosing positions and 50% in winning positions it would be a different deal, but I dont think I ever have won a losing game by disconection. The second I fork the king and queen however.......
2. there are a million free to pay chess sites out there, if anybody ever tried to charge for playing you might experience a slight drop of active members on this site
I know you saw the humor ;)
anyway we dont need to fix connection problems, we can simply make the people with a history of bad connection play each other so that we who have the money to pay for a stable internett connection can fokus on our game instead :)
Kaynight, perhaps dimwit was a harsh word to use (i could have used much harsher words) but it's out there now. I am sure people call you me and everyone else all sorts of things when the connection drops, as do I, and I am sure as do you. Part of the chess.com maybe for elite players, but this forum isn't one of those parts and in my view its not constructive to bring up the issue of payment, it really has nothing to do with anything here. Nobody is forcing anybody to do anything here, and I doubt chess.com can force anybody to pay anything, this isn't the mafia.
I do not see what your issue is with what I am proposing. Highlighting the players who do not play fairly seems like a straightforward and logical thing to do, why shouldn't it be done? Would you consider it acceptable playing chess against someone in real life and having them get up and leave without any indication when and if they're coming back? I wouldn't want to play another game with that person.
I believe the trolls would abuse the system. At least that is a reason cited for not using this method. It is hard to beat trolls, you know. For evidence, see the magician love potions.
AKAL1, I can't see how trolls would abuse the system. You have major and constant connection issues and you get paired up with similar players. Let them troll eachother. In any case, trolls exist on this site today, they aren't just going to come out of the woodwork, they'd just be housed in one area.
Kaynight, I don't know about you but quite often I start a game against someone who's profile page is full of messages from people who say this player will disconnect when losing. I am going into a game knowing that this guy/girl might and likely will simply leave when I am beating them. That isn't fun. And at the end of the day, they do simply leave. Great, I won, but this person is still roaming the site and wasting everybody's time. This doesn't happen in real life and if the player is a dimwit or an asshole everybody needs to be aware of it. I don't hang out or play chess with assholes in real life and sure would not like to do it here.
Thats my point, I only learn he/she disconnects after I asterted the game, there is no indication or way to know this until you click on their profile and see what other people are saying. That's exactly my point. I don't go out looking for those people, they just get randomly assigned.
cosmicharmonic, this isn't about my great moves or glory, it's about coding that would enhance the experience of the site and push the envelope a little. I think it would improve the site. Why shouldn't it be done?
Already wrote to admins. And I've been to walmart once. It was big.
walmart is where rednecks go to shop...
This is a persistent issue, a pathetic player with child's mentality disconnects during a game leaving you hanging. And I know sometimes it happens because of an actual connection issue but surely there are ways to distinguish between a random connection issue and persistent disconnections.
A simple colour coding of players on the live game graph for example can give a quick indication which players disconnect often and which ones don't:
green - none to low disconnection issues
amber - some disconnection issues
red - constant disconnection issues
It's a simple idea and can't be particuarly hard to code. It can also work when picking just a random game, players can be paired up by their colour code, greens v greens, ambers v ambers and reds v reds, let all the child-like imbeciles play one another and watch each other disconnect, while all the other people who want to play properly can just get on with it.
Just an idea.
One reason I play mostly online games rather than the faster time controls, is that my connection here in Italy is very spotty. It's always going out, and although it has always come back, I'm afraid it's going to drop out altogether during a game. The fastest I'll try is a 30 minute game for just this reason. So I wouldn't be too quick to judge the other guy.
This is a persistent issue, a pathetic player with child's mentality disconnects during a game leaving you hanging. And I know sometimes it happens because of an actual connection issue but surely there are ways to distinguish between a random connection issue and persistent disconnections.
A simple colour coding of players on the live game graph for example can give a quick indication which players disconnect often and which ones don't:
green - none to low disconnection issues
amber - some disconnection issues
red - constant disconnection issues
It's a simple idea and can't be particuarly hard to code. It can also work when picking just a random game, players can be paired up by their colour code, greens v greens, ambers v ambers and reds v reds, let all the child-like imbeciles play one another and watch each other disconnect, while all the other people who want to play properly can just get on with it.
Just an idea.
How are they leaving you hanging? If you agreed to a 5 minute game, and they leave after 2 minutes, you still would have been playing for 3 more minutes?
This is a persistent issue, a pathetic player with child's mentality disconnects during a game leaving you hanging. And I know sometimes it happens because of an actual connection issue but surely there are ways to distinguish between a random connection issue and persistent disconnections.
A simple colour coding of players on the live game graph for example can give a quick indication which players disconnect often and which ones don't:
green - none to low disconnection issues
amber - some disconnection issues
red - constant disconnection issues
It's a simple idea and can't be particuarly hard to code. It can also work when picking just a random game, players can be paired up by their colour code, greens v greens, ambers v ambers and reds v reds, let all the child-like imbeciles play one another and watch each other disconnect, while all the other people who want to play properly can just get on with it.
Just an idea.