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Ethical-Cheating or Chess players Cheat
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msjean I gather you don't cheat, if not let's play!
Jun 22, 2011
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#24
Hey, I'm just wondering, how hould you be able to recognize one, without being insulting to someone who is simply having a good day? There are so many engines out there, many will easily beat most of us. You'd have to check each engine on every game you play. And an engine, to many of us generally does the same as the human.. it tries to make the best move.
Maybe (grand)masters are better in spotting an engine, and maybe is this why it is said that cheating occurs mostly on the higher up levels?
I could think of a reason for someone lower in rank to use an engine to assist his decision making. It would help the player find possibilities he didn't think of before, especially when he's still quite new. Thus rapidly increasing the learning speed. If he remembers those best moves and figures out why they were made, he learned a big deal. The big disadvantage is that the rating would be unnaturally high. But someone might not care about that.
A chess engine could function as a cheap chess coach. Especially in these times of depression. :)
Of course I myself never use an engine for ongoing games. I only analyse them afterwards. And then, not even much. I usually know what I did wrong one or two moves after the mistake. :)
For me, part of the fun of chess is figuring ways out myself. It gives more satisfaction in the long run.
I do however play the engine Houdini a lot lately. I like it's style. But it's a bit slow on my machine.
The best machine is the brain but it might just not be the most effective, however, if you use the machine you were born with, on one can accuse you of cheating.
I know, this sounds like a response from a fortune cookie.
no reason to cheat. takes the fun out of the game
careful peeps i had a topic locked down for that word lol
what word? "the"?
I'd be surprised if they didn't.
I mean, they've been caught.
no "cheaters" lol
Jun 23, 2011
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#32
Cheating in chess is nothing new. It’s probably as old as the game itself.
The french used their cell phones....
.(…) According to Jean-Claude Moingt the cheating system went as follows: Cyril Marzolo sent SMS text messages with phone numbers which functioned as code. The first two digits were always 06, the following two were the number the move, the 5th and 6th figures would refer to the starting square, the 7th and 8th to the ending square, and finally, two counts of no importance. For example: 06 01 52 54 37, 06 01 57 55 99, 06 02 71 63 84, 06 02 67 65 43are the codes for the moves constituting the Latvian Gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5). This is actually the international notation of correspondence chess.
Arnaud Hauchard kept the two phones with him: his own and that of Sebastien Feller. He consulted and then returned to the bar at the venue. The way to indicate moves to Feller was as follows: the opponent of Vachier-Lagrave: A and 1, the opponent of Fressinet: B and 2, the opponent of Tkachiev: C and 3, the opponent of Feller: D and 4, Feller: E and 5, Tkachiev: F and 6, Fressinet: G and 7 and finally VachLagrave: H and 8. For example if Arnaud Hauchard revolved around the table and stopped some time behind the opponent Tkachiev, and then behind that of Fressinet, he was signalling square c2.
http://www.chessvibes.com/columns/cheating-careful-what-you-ask-for/
I think for the most part people do not cheat....I know there are always some .
we are so lucky on this site to have little of that and eagle eye staff..Still I think its a facinating subject.
To see how people try to cheat and the ways they go about doing it. 
Thats so bad >.>
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Jun 23, 2011
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#36
Thank you MsJean, very interesting topic with lots of links, I will try to catch up on when time permits! Lator...
cheaters only cheat to advance in comps but if they won would it be worth it or caught and disgraced in front of the other players
Jun 23, 2011
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#38
Text message moves
the french thought they had it made but look it was tried in 2008 and this was caught too....Cheating gets you in trouble no no no
At the Dubai Open in 2008, M Sadatnajafi, an Iranian player ranked 2288 at the time, was disqualified from the tournament after he was caught allegedly receiving suggested moves by text message on his mobile phone while playing Grandmaster Li Chao. The game was being streamed live on the internet and it was alleged that his friends were following it at home, mirroring the game using a computer programme and sending moves by text message.
there are loads of ways to cheat if they want to they always find a way and some are caught and some dont its 50/50
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