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Neslanovac

Is there a book that is writen by authority on the theme. Some "official russian chess school program" from which you can have the right approach from the start and learn the game properly.

bogart21

I am actually wondering much the same thing, it seems like chess lessons jump around too much for a beginner.

shon615

there really isn't ONE book (as far as i know) to learn the whole game of chess. I know this because i have gone through the process of learning the game from scratch and actually being pretty good at it.

Neslanovac: looking at your live rating, i would say you are a pretty good player - better than myself. 

Bogart: it seems to me that you also have some experience in the game, just need some refining.

This is what i started out with for openings: World Champion Openings by Eric Schiller. I really like this guy because he makes really good books on openings and his analysis is very good. 

http://www.amazon.com/World-Champion-Openings-Eric-Schiller/dp/1580422535/ref=tmm_pap_title_0

For endgames and checkmates, I would recommend How to beat your dad at chess by Murray Chandler. I like this book becuase he thorughly explains 50 mating strategies and also some moves that lead up to them. I would also recommend his other book on chess tactics becuase it also explains a lot of the popular tactics. 

http://www.amazon.com/How-Beat-Your-Chess-Gambit/dp/1901983056/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1333900442&sr=1-1

shon615

Another good publishing company is everyman chess. They publish really good books with amazing analysis and great stuff. I like their series on openings called "starting out:..." The only problem that i find with these books is that they tend to be pretty expensive and sometimes cost can get in the way. 

if you are looking for a good series on how to learn the basics and some other stuff, then i think a series called "Winning chess..." is a very good one. All of the books are by Yasser Seirawan and as explained above, have great analysis on basic things like tactics, moves, checkmates, openings, and just chess in general. 

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_4?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=yasser+seirawan&sprefix=yass%2Cstripbooks%2C144

shon615
paulgottlieb wrote:

Chess is not English Grammar or Calculus, and you can't study it that way. The major component of any chess learning program will be playing lots of games.

The reason chess lessons seem to jump around is that there are many separate chess skills, and the beginning player has to learn a little bit of each of them. You have to learn a bit of tactics, elementary mates and how to queen a pawn, a little grasp of strategy, and an introduction to the ideas behind the openings. And these all have to be taught more or less at once, if the student is going to be able to play with some hope of success.

He is correct, you can never study chess like math or science or anything like it. For chess, you need lots of determination and strategic thinking skills. Usually, going to chess lessons for the first few months/year will help a lot in securing the understanding of basic skills. Then, the only thing that will help you is regular practice in chess tourneys under pressure. If you have a local chess tournament that has a tourney every weekend like i do, great, go there once in a while. If not, then keep playing on this site and just keep practicing. that is what really helps.

Neslanovac

This is exactly the problem:Jumping around. I learn by my self from varios sorces and can play a decent tournament game with 2000 E but we all waste to much time on irelevant stuff while the important is neglected. I am 99 % convicted that IT SHOULD be learned like math, since the famous Botvinik school regards it as moustly the science( of geometry at first) And there must be some logical ,experience proved plan, of how it should be done. Where you start and where you finish. I am looking for that. Of course,the game is so complexed that every person have some ideas of how it should be learned. Me too.

adamredsox24

Hey everyone. I think its interesting to see all of the resources out there to learn about chess. it really depends on your level and age of how you want to grasp chess. i have a chess camp but i can give a few pointers.. what levels are you?

bohardus

From good commented games you can learn also. Some comments are very uesfull.

Ziryab

bobby Fischer teaches chess

_Ravin

You canb only learn so much from chess books, only the very basic principles, tactics and a few dif openings. Though if you were going to, i would recommend looking at some chess problem books. They can be very advanced for most good players, but it will improve your game a lot. And study a lot of endgames

chessnaivete

love the  game first.

shon615
chessnaivete wrote:

love the  game first.

she is absolutely right. Also, if you don;t have one yet, get a chess engine. I posted one on the downloads section of this website:

http://www.chess.com/download/view/deep-rybka-41

the engine can also help you out with some games and tell you what you did wrong and what you should have done. Also, in the fritz GUI, it makes variations for you and tells you whole chunks of moves. 

transpo

There is no one proper way to learn chess or any subject.  Almost every individual human being that has a brain learns a subject in a unique way that fits the way her/his brain is wired. 

e4nf3

The best way to learn chess properly is to remember to say "please", "thank you" and to dress for the occasion.

Neslanovac

Now,since I solve my problem I will write this for ones that have the same desire. Prof. Z. Jurković from the best Croatian chess school Goranka was kinde enough to give me a scriptes of russian schools from which some are published as books such as: E. Gufeljd High school of chess and similar which clearly state that in learning (and playing) you have to have a plan. As one player  said: Bad plan is better than no plan at all. Love for the game is the first reason to start to work on it properly. Interesting all have the same way,just in fiew variations on the same theme. Do your self a favor and ,if you are interested, ask authority on subject. I know that people here with FM and IM titles are selling they knowlege to pick up fiew dollars but there are other ways.

Sattacker

I recently read that learning endgame, middle game and finally openings (in this order) is the proper way to learn chess. Your thoughts? 

kindaspongey

It might be of interest to look at the table of contents of A COMPLETE CHESS COURSE by Antonio Gude: "... 3 Openings and Basic Principles 33 ... 4 Putting Your Pieces to Work 52 ... 5 Strategy and Tactics 76 ... 6 Endgame Play and Further Openings 106 … 7 Combinations and Tactical Themes 128 ... 8 Attacking Play 163 ... 9 Your First Opening Repertoire 194 …"
http://www.gambitbooks.com/pdfs/A_Complete_Chess_Course.pdf

kindaspongey
Sattacker wrote:

I recently read that learning endgame, middle game and finally openings (in this order) is the proper way to learn chess. Your thoughts? 

If one really wants to take this advice seriously, I think it is worthwhile to consider whether or not it has much of a clear meaning. What exactly is the intended idea behind, "learning endgame"? How much? All of it? To take just one hint of what that would mean, consider Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual. Here is a sample from the nearly 400 densely packed pages:

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5856bd64ff7c50433c3803db/t/598c800f1e5b6cff492f3cc7/1502380051754/dem4excerpt.pdf

Does it seem at all likely that anyone in the entire history of chess has ever learned that much endgame material before considering any other chess subject? A number of authors have suggested starting with the endgame, but I see no sign of a general agreement on how much one is expected to learn before looking at other aspects of chess. Indeed, I have not seen much in the way of attempts to address the question. IM Jeremy Silman is one author who has considered the matter and offered up a specific proposal: read pages 1-30 of Silman's Complete Endgame Course, and then "put aside" the book and give attention to other matters.

https://www.silmanjamespress.com/shop/chess/silmans-complete-endgame-course/

Similarly, does it seem likely that anyone in chess history has learned all available middlegame knowledge before learning anything about openings?

KnuppelBerry

The Soviet Chess Primer by Maizelis?

kindaspongey
KnuppelBerry wrote:

The Soviet Chess Primer by Maizelis?

If that is an answer to Neslanovac, it is perhaps worth noting that the Neslanovac contributions to this thread were posted back in 2012. Also, with regard to the Neslanovac idea of "the right approach from the start", it is perhaps worthwhile to note:

"... The title might suggest it is for beginners, but that is not the case. [The Soviet Chess Primer] does start off with some basic positions, but quickly moves on to much more advanced material including chapters on positional play and techniques of calculation." - IM John Donaldson

https://www.qualitychess.co.uk/products/2/231/the_soviet_chess_primer_by_ilya_maizelis/

A review:

https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/2015/06/04/the-soviet-chess-primer/

A sample:

https://www.qualitychess.co.uk/ebooks/Soviet_Chess_Primer-extract.pdf