1 e4 d5 2 anything other than exd5

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What would you play after 1 e4 d5 instead of 2 exd5

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c3? :-)

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Nc3

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2.Nc3 is just about the only sane alternative.

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2. d4 - Blackmar gambit

2. Nf3 - Tenisson gambit

2. Nc3 - variation of Dunst (Sleipnir) opening. 

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2.d4 and 2.Nf3 are not serious alternatives... they are Hope Chess experiments.

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Try Sleipnir - he is the Odin's horse.

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https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/tennison-gambit3?lc=1#last_comment

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Also known as "oops, I premoved 2.Nf3"

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What about  2.D4!!!!!  My friend (around 2000 rating )  is doing pretty well in 0ur chess leage with this " garbage" . It´s very psicological against 1.d4 d5 players  and a ugly surprise vs scandinavian players, they will not never expect this m0ve  because this gambit use t0 begin with 1.d4  . 

 

h0Wever,  if you ´re a 1.e4 player  you should not be afraid  to take the pawn in d5.   I understand that c0uld be annoying because after exd5 it seems like if y0u were playing a 1.d4 opening because of the new pawn structure , but t0 impr0ve your game y0u should try t0  play all of kind of positi0ns ,   and of course  the test m0ves  ( sth similar happen vs 1..Nf6 you must play 2.e5, very comittal m0ve (this pawn might be weak later but 2.e5 is only m0ve t0 keep an slight advantage  )  .

n0 fear no mercy, you play like a man.  2.exd5 or 2.d4



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Dude I did that when I first joined here lol. No more opening premoves for me.

0110001101101000 wrote:

Glyutri wrote:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/tennison-gambit3?lc=1#last_comment

Also known as "oops, I premoved 2.Nf3"

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Viulindar wrote:

What about  2.D4!!!!!  My friend (around 2000 rating )  is doing pretty well in 0ur chess leage with this " garbage" . It´s very psicological against 1.d4 d5 players  and a ugly surprise vs scandinavian players, they will not never expect this m0ve  because this gambit use t0 begin with 1.d4  . 

Anyone who plays a lot of blitz will have seen it.

It can involve a big attack fast, so I play the very solid g6 setups.



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Pfren,

You are so funny but also not able to think as the OP.

I think a lot of players in the 1400-2000 region will score much, much better with a BDG than anything else IF they like the game "we are on our own skills, we can't rely on theory of opening databases "

Which less than 2000 player didn't make 2-5 "not the best possible" theoretical move in the openings you think are so good?
And what does that make your good openings?

I know I can that I can say anything about BDG, about gambits in the world. Perhaps even wise words but you will never give in, never say that "perhaps for the region 1400-2000 a gambit like BDG isn't that bad"

I have almost a perfect score with it. Ok , not against "your level" but that's exactly my point.
Against lower gods than you BDG is an extremely interesting option!
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Agree. I was saying several times that if You are an amateur playing in Your own level You has the luxury to play many unsound opening that You are good with and have many exciting games. 

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'openingS' - damn phone

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kareldevries wrote:
Pfren,

You are so funny but also not able to think as the OP.

I think a lot of players in the 1400-2000 region will score much, much better with a BDG than anything else IF they like the game "we are on our own skills, we can't rely on theory of opening databases "

Which less than 2000 player didn't make 2-5 "not the best possible" theoretical move in the openings you think are so good?
And what does that make your good openings?

I know I can that I can say anything about BDG, about gambits in the world. Perhaps even wise words but you will never give in, never say that "perhaps for the region 1400-2000 a gambit like BDG isn't that bad"

I have almost a perfect score with it. Ok , not against "your level" but that's exactly my point.
Against lower gods than you BDG is an extremely interesting option!

 

I think such a statement in red text is ludicrous!

Do you honestly believe a player ranked at 1900 can't crush someone?

In the BDG white often gambits 1 pawn in the opening.

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X player

No, that is not what I say. I say that , imho , lot of players would score better with BDG than the "traditional" openings.

And, for me, at least give much more fun games
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kareldevries wrote:
X player

No, that is not what I say. I say that , imho , lot of players would score better with BDG than the "traditional" openings.

And, for me, at least give much more fun games

 

I understand exactly what you are saying.

You are saying a very controversial statement about players in the region of 1400-2000 based on your own personal opinion.

I simply disagree with you.

I think people score wonderfully with "Traditional" openings.

 

They are called "Traditional" for a very good reason.

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True Fiveofswords,

Lots of players are so prejudice against gambits (like Pfren) that they think that the can refute it behind the bord.

Against a well prepared white player I wish them luck......

And yes, when I play BDG against Carlson or he against me the outcome will be that he wins 100 times. But that doesn't say BDG is bad for my level
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X player,

The beauty of discussions like these are that we don't have to agree. I am absolutely not all knowing:-)