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A Bust to the Sicilian Defense
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Aug 29, 2018
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#43
Don’t worry we’ll get to your line. I’m gonna analyze nf6 first though since HardcoreLover posted a beautiful game played using that line. At first glance though I don’t really understand why anyone would want to play your line becuase if they wanted to play the French Defense they could have just played e6 after e4 instead of trying to transpose to it from the Alapin.
Aug 29, 2018
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#44
Thanks for posting such an in-depth analysis Bobby Talparov.
I agree that in general IQP positions are just fine for black unfortunately in the Alapin they are not because blacks development is too slow while white’s is too natural and quick.
I was not claiming the blitz game posted was well played in the middle game. In fact I mentioned in my annotations that it was not. The fact that me and my opponent are complete morons in the middle game is irrelevant to whether or not white gained a big advantage in the opening which white did. If given the choice of positions after move 8 surely you choose white in this game do you not? I liked your comments about black needing to develop his kingside instead of his queenside. I agree that would provide stiffer resistance.
Also I disagree that Kasparov is better until move 27. His knight is put in a brutal pin on move 17 that he can never break without exposing his king and in fact his kingside paw structure does get completely destroyed on move 18.
Ona completely random note, how does an IQP position result by move 3 in the Caro-Kann. I know very little about this opening as I’m an expert only in the Alapin, but i don’t see how we’re getting an IQP there
@staples13 I think it is a fine thread. It is great you have success with the line. Since it means black Sicilian players cannot use the classic motifs of the opening it is bound to catch folks off guard.
"Objectively, the Alapin System is not that dangerous for Black. ..." - GM Mikhail Golubev (2017)
Aug 30, 2018
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#48
Ok Bobby Phisher if you want to avoid black trying to transpose the Alapin into a French for some reason I can suggest to you the delayed Alapin! Play a good developing move you were going to play at some point anyways on move 2 and then play 3. C3!! Transposing back into the Alapin.
Aug 30, 2018
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#49
BobbyPhisher960 wrote:
staples13 wrote:
Don’t worry we’ll get to your line.I’m gonna analyze nf6 first though since HardcoreLover posted a beautiful game played using that line. At first glance though I don’t really understand why anyone would want to play your line becuase if they wanted to play the French Defense they could have just played e6 after e4 instead of trying to transpose to it from the Alapin.
Because I avoided several dangerous lines in French and now you only have Exchange line, Advanced, and a suspicious version of Tarrasch if you play 4. Nd2. Do you understand now, staples?
Not really. I don’t know anything about the French Defense or what variations are or are not dangerous. The only thing I know about the French is that it bores me more than any other opening besides the London System, so I always play the exchange variation becuase I know my opponents hate that, so if they’re going to play an opening I hate then im going to play a variation they hate.
Back on topic , I will look more to see how White should best avoid transposing to the French.
Aug 30, 2018
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#50
Question for all Sicilian players:
Lets suppose for a second the Sicilian Defense is not busted and black can hold even after 2. C3
Why are you all so bad at defending against it then? Why does it seem like one must be a master to defend it?
If you are master level please feel free to ignore the question.
Aug 30, 2018
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#51
Well I appreciate your input Bobby Phisher but my question is for players rated 2000 and lower.
Im curious what it is about the Alapin that makes them so uncomfortable
staples13 wrote:
Question for all Sicilian players:
Lets suppose for a second the Sicilian Defense is not busted and black can hold even after 2. C3
Why are you all so bad at defending against it then? Why does it seem like one must be a master to defend it?
If you are master level please feel free to ignore the question.
I score 67.5% (from roughly 100 games, including those with the Smith-Morra move order 2.d4?! cxd4 3.c3 Nf6) against the Alapin, compared to 65% against 2.Nf3 (roughly 600 games) and 65% against 2.Nc3 (about 100 games).
[EDIT - Sorry, just saw the <2000 post above]
Aug 30, 2018
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#53
staples13 wrote:
Well I appreciate your input Bobby Phisher but my question is for players rated 2000 and lower.
Im curious what it is about the Alapin that makes them so uncomfortable
Let's play 10 min rated. I literally never played the sicilian but I will win you and your alapin (as I am an alapin player too)
Aug 30, 2018
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#56
staples13 wrote:
Ok well I’m bored waiting in live chess for you. If you want to play message me or post in this thread within the next half hour and then go to live chess and I’ll send you a challenge within a couple minutes
I'm here, I was making a thread on chess openings
Sep 1, 2018
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#57
Here Bobby Phisher I think you’ll like this game. I transposed from the French Defense into the Alapin!!!
it was a 3 minute no increment game I played a couple minutes ago
OP is right. He wins 71 percent of his games with the Alapain. Look at his credentials and learn from the masters like him. He is just trying to open our eyes, to start a conversation, he wants the best for us.
Try your opening against latest Stockfish on your desktop, give SF 1 min per move thinking time. Post your pgn at move 12.
Let me know whether black is busted or not!!
Otherwise , play against Brainfish (if you know how to install brainfish). https://www.chess.com/blog/drmrboss/how-to-install-brainfish-the-best-chess-program-in-the-world
A 1677 just debunked the sicilian yay!
The sicialian is busted? Are you high bro? The sicilian have the best stats for black against 1.e4