A Bust to the Sicilian Defense

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Matejko1997

Well, I was looking really deeply into this matter a few years ago. I was like you now, trying to make sense of it all. Let me tell you right now that you will end up nowhere. There are much more intelligent people that still haven't refuted it and probably never will. However, if you will keep doing it I would suggest you to start with a little "worse" opening like Caro-Kann 1...c6 if you think 1...c5 is bad. Against the 1.e4 c5 2.c3 (Alapin Sicilian) it's proven by a number of games that after 2...d5 Black is just fine. The thing you keep on missing all the time, the thing I didn't appreciate before is FLEXIBILITY.

HolographWars
BeastBoy06 wrote:

Staples13, the weirdest &$*# in the world

Proof?

Any concrete lines?

Or words?

staples13

Here is another example of how unstoppable the Alapin is. Notice how even extremely strong players like my opponent can not survive more than 12 moves against the Alapin

Prometheus_Fuschs
staples13 escribió:

Here is another example of how unstoppable the Alapin is. Notice how even extremely strong players like my opponent can not survive more than 12 moves against the Alapin

1555 extremely strong? LOL

HolographWars

It's true that black's Nxh5 was a bad move, however, White's attack would still be overwhelming in any case.

kindaspongey
pfren wrote (September 4, 2018):

Both 2...Nf6 and 2...d5 are fine against the Alapin, and some players may also like 2...e6 or 2...g6.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=6

staples13
HolographWars wrote:

It's true that black's Nxh5 was a bad move, however, White's attack would still be overwhelming in any case.

Great post. Black can always play differently. In which case he merely loses differently 

PolarPhoenix

Here is another example of how stoppable the Alapin is.

staples13 pls show how white is winning in the position. Also look at Master Games. What is the win rate for white? 33%. If your so good then beat Carlsen, which in your words is trash, with the Alapin. Oh yeah and no draws allowed because you say its a disgrace. 

kindaspongey
"... 1. e4 c5 2. c3 d6 ... Here is another example of how unstoppable the Alapin is. ..." - staples13 (~9 hours ago)
staples13 wrote (~38 minutes ago):
HolographWars wrote:

It's true that black's Nxh5 was a bad move, however, White's attack would still be overwhelming in any case.

Great post. Black can always play differently. In which case he merely loses differently 

"... d5 and nf6 do provide much stiffer resistance than any of black's other responses. I, however, believe black is still lost even after these moves. I will post an analysis shortly." - staples13 (August 27, 2018)

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=2

"staples13 ... U showed your own analysis, with some nonsense and bad moves from black which don't prove anything. U just proved u lack some objectivity and skill to assess moves/positions." - IM pouncin (September 26, 2018)

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=12

fried_liver-attack
staples13 wrote:
HolographWars wrote:

It's true that black's Nxh5 was a bad move, however, White's attack would still be overwhelming in any case.

Great post. Black can always play differently. In which case he merely loses differently 

Nice Fisher quote there

kindaspongey
fried_liver-attack  wrote:

… Nice Fisher quote there

About the King's Gambit?

fried_liver-attack
kindaspongey wrote:
fried_liver-attack  wrote:

… Nice Fisher quote there

About the King's Gambit?

Yeah, about how the knight's variation

Tja_05

I'm playing Staples13 right now. As black. I haven't lost yet

staples13

This is my most recent 1 minute bullet game. Black resigned after just 9 moves after getti into a hopeless position with his Sicilian 

PolarPhoenix
staples13 wrote:

This is my most recent 1 minute bullet game. Black resigned after just 9 moves after getti into a hopeless position with his Sicilian 

Ur in a hopeless position in this argument.

staples13

Seriously people it’s not that hard to just stop playing the Sicilian. 

kindaspongey
staples13 wrote:

... 1 e4 c5 2 c3 Nc6 ... This is my most recent 1 minute bullet game. Black resigned after just 9 moves after getti into a hopeless position with his Sicilian 

"... d5 and nf6 do provide much stiffer resistance than any of black's other responses. I, however, believe black is still lost even after these moves. I will post an analysis shortly." - staples13 (August 27, 2018)

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=2

"staples13 ... U showed your own analysis, with some nonsense and bad moves from black which don't prove anything. U just proved u lack some objectivity and skill to assess moves/positions." - IM pouncin (September 26, 2018)
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=12

Carbon6
staples13 wrote:

Black resigned after just 9 moves after getting into a hopeless position with his Sicilian. Hopeless you say? Does a Stockfish evaluation of 0.00 (depth=43) constitute as "hopeless" for black?

 

HolographWars
GMRVSYash wrote:
staples13 wrote:

Black resigned after just 9 moves after getting into a hopeless position with his Sicilian. Hopeless you say? Does a Stockfish evaluation of 0.00 (depth=43) constitute as "hopeless" for black?

 

As for me, I am not arguing that the Alapin gives black a hopeless game, but I do claim that it is an extremely powerful weapon for human v. human. Staples13 has a high win rate when he plays against another human.

PolarPhoenix
HolographWars wrote:
GMRVSYash wrote:
staples13 wrote:

Black resigned after just 9 moves after getting into a hopeless position with his Sicilian. Hopeless you say? Does a Stockfish evaluation of 0.00 (depth=43) constitute as "hopeless" for black?

 

As for me, I am not arguing that the Alapin gives black a hopeless game, but I do claim that it is an extremely powerful weapon for human v. human. Staples13 has a high win rate when he plays against another human.

... He also has an extremely high win rate with the sicilian.