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HolographWars
Jul 31, 2019
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#1061
ChessieSystem101 wrote:
HolographWars wrote:
ChessieSystem101 wrote:
HolographWars wrote:

Exactly. But I still would have an advantage, and of course it is decided in middle or endgame. I simply convert the advantage in the endgame.

But I doubt all of your games, maybe only 30%, were decided in the opening.

Because they were converted in the ending.

What I mean is, I doubt that 40% of your games even brought you an advantage in the opening.

My anti Sicilian openings, even with minimal preparation, gave me solid advantages 50+% of my games, 75% if those have been converted successfully.

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ChessieSystem101
Jul 31, 2019
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#1062
HolographWars wrote:
ChessieSystem101 wrote:
HolographWars wrote:
ChessieSystem101 wrote:
HolographWars wrote:

Exactly. But I still would have an advantage, and of course it is decided in middle or endgame. I simply convert the advantage in the endgame.

But I doubt all of your games, maybe only 30%, were decided in the opening.

Because they were converted in the ending.

What I mean is, I doubt that 40% of your games even brought you an advantage in the opening.

My anti Sicilian openings, even with minimal preparation, gave me solid advantages 50+% of my games, 75% if those have been converted successfully.

Any proof?

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ChessieSystem101
Jul 31, 2019
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#1063

Im not saying it isnt good, Im just saying it isnt some miracle opening that renders the Sicilian useless

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HolographWars
Jul 31, 2019
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#1064
ChessieSystem101 wrote:

Im not saying it isnt good, Im just saying it isnt some miracle opening

There is no real miracle opening against the Sicilian, but you can come close.

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ChessBoy513
Jul 31, 2019
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#1065
HolographWars님이 썼습니다:
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HolographWars님이 썼습니다:
ChessieSystem101 wrote:

Did most of yours or sstaples get an advantage i the opening? Post at least 500 games for that at least

Do you think I have that time? 

@HolographWars you didn't even see my sample yet!!

Here's the site(for the last time!!): https://www.chess.com/live/game/3886195706

What’s that?

Its a win for White due to the outside passed pawn!!!!!!!!!!

You should see the timer when the game was over. I hope you'll get my message.

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HolographWars
Jul 31, 2019
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#1066

Why? Does staples13 always win all his Alapin games on time? I don’t think so.

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kindaspongey
Jul 31, 2019
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#1067
staples13 wrote (May 10, 2019):

… 1 e4 c5 2 c3 Nc6 … This is my most recent 1 minute bullet game. Black resigned after just 9 moves after getti into a hopeless position with his Sicilian

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=51

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kindaspongey
Jul 31, 2019
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#1068
IM pfren wrote (September 4, 2018):

Both 2...Nf6 and 2...d5 are fine against the Alapin, and some players may also like 2...e6 or 2...g6.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=6

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dawson_632
Aug 1, 2019
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#1069

 

outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust

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kindaspongey
Aug 1, 2019
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#1070
dawson_632 wrote:

… 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 a6 ...

outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust

After 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5, Polugaevsky chose 6...Bd6 and went on to achieve a draw in a 1976 game against Sveshnikov.

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1112184

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El_Chapeau12
Aug 1, 2019
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#1071
dawson_632 wrote:

 

outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust

Seriously ? The sicilian is a perfectly viable opening and there is no refutation. The delayed alapin is  not that bad, but if black knows a tiny bit of theory, he's ok.

You're showing games that start with e4 c5 c3 e6 ? => Seriously ? Black just transposes to a french

So this is not about the sicilian. Please not that in most of your games black doesn't lose because of the opening , but because of some other mistakes

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HolographWars
Aug 1, 2019
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#1072
rychessmaster1 wrote:
HolographWars wrote:
ChessBoy513 wrote:
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My refutation: 1. e4 c5 2. c3 Qa5!! this prevents 3. d4 and black is winning

Finally someone understands it.

But then black’s most powerful piece is sidelined AND black still has no center pawn, while White can develop easily.

*Cough cough* c5 *Cough Cough*

Are you sick?

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ChessieSystem101
Aug 1, 2019
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#1073

oUcHY

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dawson_632
Aug 2, 2019
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#1074
Tal125555 wrote:
dawson_632 wrote:

 

outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust

Seriously ? The sicilian is a perfectly viable opening and there is no refutation. The delayed alapin is  not that bad, but if black knows a tiny bit of theory, he's ok.

You're showing games that start with e4 c5 c3 e6 ? => Seriously ? Black just transposes to a french

So this is not about the sicilian. Please not that in most of your games black doesn't lose because of the opening , but because of some other mistakes

 

there is no such line in the french...

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ChessBoy513
Aug 2, 2019
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#1075

Sicilian is good opening and it's not refuted although there's a dubious trap.

 

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ChessBoy513
Aug 2, 2019
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#1076

Here's the raw annotation of the trap above:

1.e4 c5 2.c3 d5= 3.d4?! dxe4?! 4.d5 e6? 5.Bb5+ Bd7!? 6. dxe6 Bxb5?? 7. exf7+ Ke7 8. fxg8=N+! Rxg8?? 9. Bg5+ 1-0

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kindaspongey
Aug 2, 2019
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#1077
dawson_632 wrote:
Tal125555 wrote:
dawson_632 wrote:

… 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 a6 ...

outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust

Seriously ? The sicilian is a perfectly viable opening and there is no refutation. The delayed alapin is  not that bad, but if black knows a tiny bit of theory, he's ok.

You're showing games that start with e4 c5 c3 e6 ? => Seriously ? Black just transposes to a French 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.c3 c5

So this is not about the sicilian. Please not that in most of your games black doesn't lose because of the opening , but because of some other mistakes

there is no such line in the french...

Well, here is a line from a 2010 (Small) ECO:

After that, it refers the reader to the C09 section (where one finds 1 e4 e6 2 d4 d5 3 Nd2 c5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Ngf3 Nc6).

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dawson_632
Aug 2, 2019
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#1078
kindaspongey wrote:
dawson_632 wrote:
Tal125555 wrote:
dawson_632 wrote:

… 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 a6 ...

outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust

Seriously ? The sicilian is a perfectly viable opening and there is no refutation. The delayed alapin is  not that bad, but if black knows a tiny bit of theory, he's ok.

You're showing games that start with e4 c5 c3 e6 ? => Seriously ? Black just transposes to a French 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.c3 c5

So this is not about the sicilian. Please not that in most of your games black doesn't lose because of the opening , but because of some other mistakes

there is no such line in the french...

Well, here is a line from a 2010 (Small) ECO:

After that, it refers the reader to the C09 section (where one finds 1 e4 e6 2 d4 d5 3 Nd2 c5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Ngf3 Nc6).

 

he didn't write this though, nobody plays c3 immediately in the french 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. c3

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kindaspongey
Aug 2, 2019
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#1079
dawson_632 wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:
dawson_632 wrote:
Tal125555 wrote:
dawson_632 wrote:

… 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 a6 ...

outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust

Seriously ? The sicilian is a perfectly viable opening and there is no refutation. The delayed alapin is  not that bad, but if black knows a tiny bit of theory, he's ok.

You're showing games that start with e4 c5 c3 e6 ? => Seriously ? Black just transposes to a French 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.c3 c5

So this is not about the sicilian. Please not that in most of your games black doesn't lose because of the opening , but because of some other mistakes

there is no such line in the french...

Well, here is a line from a 2010 (Small) ECO: 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 Bd6 7.dxc5 Bxc5 8.O-O Ne7 9.Nbd2 O-O 10.Nb3

After that, it refers the reader to the C09 section (where one finds 1 e4 e6 2 d4 d5 3 Nd2 c5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Ngf3 Nc6).

… he didn't write this though, ...

Everyone can see what Tal125555 did write from what I reproduced. You, of course, can continue to dwell on that, or you can consider the 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 etc. line that the Small ECO provided along with a reference to the C09 section. I suppose another possibility is silence.

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puer_Dominicus
Aug 2, 2019
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#1080

"There are not bad openings, only badly played ones."

Lajos Portish

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