Jion_Wansu wrote:
Seen my infamous opening?
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A system for my fellow gambiteers !
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May 30, 2015
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#23
Jion_Wansu wrote:
Seen my infamous opening?
Is it the Bonnie and Clyde Gambit?
The best case scenario is White is transposing to the Blackmar-Diemer. If that's what White wants, more reliable is 1.e4 d5 2.d4 dxe4 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.f3.
The lack of a White pawn on d4 allows Black to decline in an interesting way.
I actually made a joke. I Figured Dark_Falcon would find it funny. However, I guess he didn't realize the joke.
In truth
2.exd5 is the best move.
2.Nc3 might be considered second best move.
Anything esle I think is pointless.
I don't think the BDG is that great. An I also do not think the gambit line the OP is trying to test out is that great either.
However, if he wants to give it a try for fun than I say go for it. Sometimes people play lines just to have fun.
Jun 1, 2015
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"What is the object of playing a gambit opening?... To acquire a reputation of being a dashing player at the cost of losing a game." - Siegbert Tarrasch
GM_NitishDas wrote:
"What is the object of playing a gambit opening?... To acquire a reputation of being a dashing player at the cost of losing a game." - Siegbert Tarrasch
Now I have the pawn and the compensation.
- Roman Dzindzichashvili
Jun 1, 2015
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#29
Garrus_Vakarian wrote:
Hi Gm_Nitish Das,it's an interesting system against the Scandinavian defence.
The Scandinavian defence is in my opening repertoire,so I find your post extremely interesting.
By the way,if white plays 2.Nc3 I usually play d4,and I think that after it black is better,because you have to move your knight to some uncomfortable position,for example back to b1,or to e2,where it is harmful to the other pieces' development.
I noticed that when I play 2. ...d4 sometimes white doesn't want to retreat the knight,and plays Nd5,trying to centralize it.But it is usually a losing move:
This is from a real game of mine
GreenCastleBlock hat geschrieben:
The best case scenario is White is transposing to the Blackmar-Diemer. If that's what White wants, more reliable is 1.e4 d5 2.d4 dxe4 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.f3.
The lack of a White pawn on d4 allows Black to decline in an interesting way.
Funny...that the Soller-Gambit with reversed colours :D
1.d4 e5 2.dxe5 f6 (2....Nc6 and then 3.Nf3 f6)
X_PLAYER_J_X hat geschrieben:
I actually made a joke. I Figured Dark_Falcon would find it funny. However, I guess he didn't realize the joke.
In truth
2.exd5 is the best move.
2.Nc3 might be considered second best move.
Anything esle I think is pointless.
I don't think the BDG is that great. An I also do not think the gambit line the OP is trying to test out is that great either.
However, if he wants to give it a try for fun than I say go for it. Sometimes people play lines just to have fun.
Hi mate...yes, your post was really fun, sorry, that i didnt replied, cause i saw it too late :D
Jun 1, 2015
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#32
X_PLAYER_J_X wrote:
GM_NitishDas wrote:
"What is the object of playing a gambit opening?... To acquire a reputation of being a dashing player at the cost of losing a game." - Siegbert Tarrasch
Now I have the pawn and the compensation.
- Roman Dzindzichashvili
Siegbert Tarrasch already mentioned "at the cost of losing a game" ...
What I wish to know is what exactly is going to happen to your D Pawn?
Is your idea to play d3 or just leave it on d2?
Jun 1, 2015
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#34
X_PLAYER_J_X wrote:
What I wish to know is what exactly is going to happen to your D Pawn?
Is your idea to play d3 or just leave it on d2?
It depends on the position ... but mostly i would prefer to play Bc4 and then d3 .....
Tbh it looks like a lot of work just to avoid the Scandinavian. You must know:
- Blackmar-Diemer
- 2...d4 which isn't really exciting
- whatever 3...e5 leads to
...when you could play 2.d4 and just play the Blackmar -Diemer or just recapture on e4 with the knight and find some cheeky way of playing against 3.Nxe4 Qd5 since you probably don't want to be tricked into playing 4.Nc3 Qa5.
You can put a pawn on d3 but then you're just hoping for blunders on f6 and f7 which you'd probably be doing in the Blackmar -Diemer anyway except with a pawn on d4 which would at least take some options away from Black. Sometimes in those Caro-Kann positions you can play a d5 pawn sac and get something going but with a pawn on d3 Black could even end up being a lot better because you won't have this trick anymore.
The BDG is much maligned but it's OTB results are better than most of you would expect:
Of course that's a database which includes below 2000 players, but that's most of us reading here.
I grew up in Florida after NM Santasiere retired in Miami. He was a force then at the state chess level. Santasiere waged a genially losing campaign for romantic chess. Part of that was proselytizing for the BDG in his Florida Chess News column.
So I long had the impression that people played the BDG everywhere, only to discover that mostly it's never played aside from a very few aficionados.
It's supposed to be not-so-great for White but it can give Black some problems to solve. Sometimes in club games someone will move the rook away from f8 or they'll leave a bunch of pieces lined up on the f-file and things start to go downhill very fast. When that doesn't happen there are still some tactics to think about.
In the chess.com Slow Chess League archive, there are over 5600 games but only one is a BDG (not played by me).
Black played reasonably and was well ahead according to Fritz until he grabbed a second pawn, but after that his kingside was vulnerable to standard attacks and he went down by move 25.
The BDG offers the usual gambit trade-off.
Sure, it's not that sound with solid play by Black, but how many Black players can find the solid lines over the board without getting too far behind on time?
There is at last a decent book on the BDG: Christopher's Sheerer's "The Blackmar-Diemer Gambit." As he says, "The Blackmar-Diemer Gambit is neither a weapon that wins by force, nor is it refuted."
In my experience gambits work well OTB at the class level.
Seen my infamous opening?