Amazing Opening Trick Against Scandinavian Defense(Tennison Gambit)

 I doubt white's 8th move is best.

Then tell us the best move.

I'm pretty sure Qd4 isn't even a good move since it allows Qb5... Nc6 has got to be better since it stops that.

Very nice trap, Ranj-Sake. I think most black players at my level and higher may play the black moves up to 4... Nf6, but nobody will reply 5. Qe2 with 5... Qd5. That is a blunder-level mistake.

I think most players would just let go of the pawn at this stage and concentrate on development.

Oops I think I was thinking 8.Qc8 was already mate Daviderer.

That trap is essentially based on the same ideas as the englund gambit mainline trap with the board positions reversed.

I use this all the time in blitz and bullet. It still amazes me how many people don't know about it. I've even beaten 1800+ rated opponents with it lol. In blitz when I have time to type in chat I'll act all shocked like, oh no I premoved and hung a pawn on move 2!! Then they get all cocky and tell me how much I suck and then.... Kapow! Gimme that queen!

8 Qc8 mate??? If 8Qc8 then 8Qd8

It's 10 Qc8 mate, not 8 Qc8. You are forgetting the queen is on c6 and cannot move to d8.

Doesn't Black get a decent position if he returns the pawn?

 Edit: Dang it. Missed the smothered mate with Nd6#.

this wouldn't work on me.  I'm always watching for check moves and splits, I'd give up a pawn long before letting that crap get me

This position can also arise from the Reti Opening: 1.Nf3, d5 2.e4, dxe4 3.Ng5.

Black is doing quite well after 3...e5. The explorer database on CC lists 7 master level games with 3...e5 and Black scores 86%.

My advice? Avoid - the Scandinavian Defence is solid but a bit passive, White has better ways to proceed than to gambit a pawn and hand Black equality on a plate as early as move 2!

It's well known that the only way for white to gain a definite advantage is by 2. ed, although some players might like to play a gambit based on 2. d4, which is reasonably well motivated if they're strong, attacking players and which might put black off the Scandinavian forever. I've analysed systems where black tries to return the pawn in these lines for development, with a stronger player than me who plays such lines, and it isn't as easy for black to do so as might be thought, since white can make useful developing moves without accepting the pawn back ..... typically based on Be3.

lmao as Black you are fine with allowing the knight to take back your pawn. You ignore it and just develop with the satisfaction that he is out of book. That's why people play the Scandi usually, to avoid theory.

And I wouldn't play that Bf5 ... The 6.Nxf7 sideline looks interesting, though

I think what you said is kinda stupid. People play chess to have fun, not to beat grandmasters or avoid opening moves that Stockfish doesn't like. You think playing unsound gambits is bad?

Actually, looking at the threads you have made on the forum you don't bring much to a discussion ... just another tryhard who doesn't play any games on this site.

2.Nf3 never came to my mind before, but when looking closer at it - this has the right to exist, it will be interesting to try in a blitz game 

Lakdawala's 2013 book on the Scandinavian doesn't even consider 2.Nf3.

That must tell you something, surely?