Bogo Indian or Queen's Indian Defense

Yeah its funny they give examples of where white could of had an advantage but not black lol.

Besides Radja's 7...d6 at the above game, the move 7...d5 is very topical. Suffice to say that very good home preparation is required by both players- the main line is extremely sharp, and a small slip may well be fatal.

OTB I would also play the more rational/safer 7...d6: I don't have to memorize much, and Black's position is easy to play. I liked Black's play in the following game, where Black hit with ...c5 instead of ...e5, and achieved a good hedgehog setup:

x_patzer's "lol" should be translated as "the fool laughs even if there's nothing funny to laugh at".

lol It doesn't surpise me at all that you would play such a line Pfren.

Yeah, If I had a choice in the matter I would play the more rational/safer move 3...b6.

3...b6 is (very) fine of course, but loads of theory, and more than that, it's not terribly good for more than a draw at a high level. I have employed it a lot in correspondence games, and I got a lot of draws, three wins against rather weak oponents, and my single loss in CC. I still play it, but I do not expect more than half a point under normal circumstances.

Quitting the QID was the wisest move of my time playing chess. How miserable I was.

Wow that list is actually quite surprising. The najdorf lower than the kan and the KID higher than the nimzo and QGD..

Well, I suppose you might like to group the Nimzo and QID together to get 297 which is higher than the KID.

I'm amazed at the Caro number...but maybe it's because they seem to have lumped all the Caro variations into one section whereas all the Sicilians and types of Double KP game are broken up as well. So that being the case, it is also surprising the number of Kans/Taimanovs and Englishes

Yes against 3Nc3 can play 3...b6, or 3...c5 transposing to nimzo indian type positions avoiding Qc2 lines. 

The above position has a 84.7% draw rate in high level chess!

However, I honestly believe it doesn't matter unless you are like 2500+.

I mean take me for example.

I have played 800 blitz games and only have 42 draws.

I have played close to 250 standard games and only have 22 draws.

Which is to say lol my drawing record sucks lol.

I wish my record was 84.7% draw rate lol.

In blitz you can win with anything, and simple can be good, less to think about. In an OTB game going on several hours you would need to be several hundred points better than opponent to win. It is one of the most drawish lines in chess.

Hello people! Since a few months I've started playing the Bogo-Indian when my opponents go for the anti-Nimzo. I must agree with those saying that 4.Nbd2 is extremely annoying, it is almost a refutation, I'd say! However, let's not forget we don't play against computers, nor against super GMs, and that those Bogo lines are mostly unexplored. For sure, Black can't really hope for an objective advantage, most of the time it's the opposite, but...that's true for most openings with black like the KID, the dutch, the Benoni...

Here is an example from my personal experience, my best game with the Bogo. Correspondence game against a NM (and, for now, my only win against a titled player here on chess.com)

Up to 11.Qc2 the position was perfectly equal according to SF14 with either 11...Be4! or 11...Re8 or 11...Nbd7, but I played an inaccuracy, 11...c5?!. After some moves, I eventually lost the a4 pawn. I've been fighting, though, in an unfavourable ending and eventually even won it! Quite a nice game! I suggest the variation I have played, the Grünfeld variation 4...a5!

Both are sound and solid openings, but if you're looking for a somewhat unbalanced positional struggle with chances for both sides - ie. if you're playing for a win - then maybe Bogo is the one for you (it's also my own personal preference).

Of course, it's possible to get complex and unbalanced positions in the QID, but most often it's white who has the choice to undertake such operations. 

So, you agree with the utter nonsense said "by those".

This isn't necessarily a bad thing- you will change your mind when you will learn one thing, or two about the subject.

Lol Nbd2 is not the kind of move that would refute an opening.

@pfren Nice, you quoted that sentence cutting out the "however" following, which is of primary importance to understand my point. With "almost a refutation" I meant, of course, at top level. That is why you don't see many Bogos in top tier tournys. If I truly believed that's a refutation at MY level, do you think I would play it?! Would I talk positively about 4... a5 as a playable variation? I think you should learn a thing or two as well, for example how to avoid being so obnoxious when answering to strangers online. You must be fun at parties!

4.Nbd2 cannot be a refutation of an opening at any level, and this is fairly obvious to anyone who knows a bit more than the basics about good and not-so-good setups.

The natural way to render the d2 knight as oddly placed is to play ...d5, although it's not so good immediately because of 4.Nbd2 d5 5.Qa4+ which forces the knight to occupy the inconvenient c6 square. So the trend was (and still is) 4...0-0 5.a3 Be7 6.e4 d5 7.e5 Nfd7, which can become very complex, but is theoretically equal. A recent trend from CC games is 4.Nbd2 Be7!? which opts for 5.e4 d5 6.e5 Nfd7 and ...c5, when a bishop at d3 won't hit at Black's king, who is uncastled yet.

Actually there are a ton of openings which "conventional wisdom" is regarding as bad, but they are actually just fine. A recent example is the "Indian Tarrasch" 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c5 4.cxd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nf6!? (you can feel a random woodpusher screaming "blunder!" here) 6.Bg5 Be6! which is doing just great recently.

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