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ezamit

My son is rated around 750 and I have taught him Vienna opening for white. After reviewing few of his games, I feel it might not be a good opening for beginners. Any recommendations for a good fundamentally sound opening for white.

eaguiraud

Kings gambit maybe? To learn to attack

ArgoNavis

Ruy López

eaguiraud

Ruy lopez is too boring imo

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Is not an Italian Game a thing to start from? (and you can play it both tactically 4. c3 and more positionally 4. d3)

eaguiraud

Daimonion wrote:

Is not an Italian Game a thing to start from? (and you can play it both tactically 4. c3 and more positionally 4. d3)

+1

FuelKingNL

I agree with the Italian, it is also a good way to explain that the f pawn is only protected by the king.

When he gets better you could try the Queens Gambit

kindaspongey

For someone seeking help with choosing openings, I usually bring up Openings for Amateurs by Pete Tamburro (2014).

http://kenilworthian.blogspot.com/2014/05/review-of-pete-tamburros-openings-for.html

I believe that it is possible to see a fair portion of the beginning of Tamburro's book by going to the Mongoose Press site. Perhaps ezamit would also want to look at Discovering Chess Openings by GM Johm Emms (2006).

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627114655/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen91.pdf

Maybe consider:

Starting Out: Open Games by GM Glenn Flear (2010)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140626232452/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen134.pdf

Chess Openings for Kids by Graham Burgess & John Watson (2011)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627040230/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen146.pdf

Basic Chess Openings for Kids by Charles Hertan (2015)

https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/2015/10/02/for-the-kids/

Also, perhaps look at:

https://www.chess.com/article/view/picking-the-correct-opening-repertoire

Ziryab

Young players will grow strongest if their development follows the historic development of chess theory. Hence, start with the Italian and King's Gambit. After considerable experience with these, introduce Evans Gambit, Spanish, Queen's Gambit, ...

OTOH. the Spanish may be the best way to teach both basic opening principles and the fundamentals of sound positional play. It may be a good lace to begin.

In any case, center control, reduction of one's vulnerabilities (and exploitation of those of the opponents), and basic tactics should predominate opening study.

Players who rely too much too early on a single opening system usually retard their long-term capabilities.

ezamit

Thx all. I will switch to Italian and Ruy Lopez. 

HappyChessGuy

I would recommend the knights first opening. bring out your knights then the d and e pawns and next attack with bishops. I am on a tablet so I cant make a diagram.

b0bnolan

The Scotch, but use the move order. 1.e4 e5 2.d4 exd4 3.Nf3

I discuss this on my blog. http://chess-for-engineers.blogspot.com/2015/05/openings-for-beginners.html

X_PLAYER_J_X

What is wrong with people on this forum!


You can't teach a little kid the Ruy Lopez and Kings Gambit.

Whats the matter with you people.

Even Grand Masters struggle in those lines.

You want a little kid to play them?

Weirdos!

I bet many here have no clue how to even play them.

An you expect a little kid too?

What are you people smoking?

 

You start off with simple lines!

 

The Italian Game

or

The Kings Indian Attack

 

You reach the same positions over and over again.

The repetition helps!

 

Every strong player started off walking before running.

Bobby Fischer played the Kings Indian Attack and the Italian Game.

Even today's strong chess players who are young play the Italian Game.

erik42085

Teach your kid the developtowardscenterconnectrooksdontmovepiecestwiceearly opening.

Snowmanchess

Ruy Lopez is an easy and pretty effective but slow and boring opening. This doesn't mean it's bad but likely won't lead to and exciting game.

Ziryab
X_PLAYER_J_X wrote:

What is wrong with people on this forum!


You can't teach a little kid the Ruy Lopez and Kings Gambit.

Whats the matter with you people.

Even Grand Masters struggle in those lines.

You want a little kid to play them?

Weirdos!

 

 

You cannot teach a young pitcher to throw a change up when even professionals struggle to throw it well. Curves and sliders are even further from reach.

 

Naw. You're better off learning positional chess from some old guy who cannot beat kids rated 800. (see X Player's endorsements in the BYP thread.)

 

 

(I'm gonna stick with my program built on suggestions by Max Euwe and Jose Capablanca. They were world champions and several of my students have been state champions.)

 

Start with openings played before Howard Staunton won his first game, and then grow the child into the games of Staunton, Anderssen, and Morphy. If they played the opening, teach it. Focus on tactics, basic checkmates, and endgames. Read Chess Fundamentals by Capablanca and The Development of Chess Style by Euwe.

C-Crusher
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Dodger111
erik42085 wrote:

Teach your kid the developtowardscenterconnectrooksdontmovepiecestwiceearly opening.

Also the developknightsbeforebishopsdon'tmovequeentooearlyandcastletodeveloprooksnevermove-a4or-h4togetrooksout opening

DaveyJones01

I would say don't teach them an opening, teach endgames and just how to really play chess and not blunder until like 1300-1400. My biggest mistake when I was starting out was concerning myself with openings, that definitely held my progress back significantly for a few years. Teaching someone rated 750, who plays against players who also don't know openings, or understand chess, would really harm his development as a chess player. Sure GM's played openings as kids, but they were also already playing at a high level, and had a good understanding of chess. Capablanca won the world championship without reading a single book on openings. Don't make the mistake of teaching him something that won't help him/will harm his development as a chess player

C-Crusher
pfren wrote:

Teaching openings to a kid is the best way to make him/her hate chess.

hahah, i agree with this one.